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I agree wit crossref: PK for playing the ball on the floor

In practice we'd all award a 22m DO , I am sure. And fortunately for us, if we look for a Law to justify a 5m scrum, that doesn't apply either ...

so who here would award a 5m scrum for a red defender's kick in red 22 that hits a blue player in the back as he stands up from a ruck and the ball...

For me, there is a lot of context to apply to this decision. To use a legal analogy : sometimes in criminal matters the CPS decides that it's not...

It's how it's always been done. Old Law Book Current Law Book Apart from at a kick-off or restart kick, if the ball is played or taken...

Very poor decision. Basically saying it's ok to retaliate as long as nobody is hurt

that's fair enough Phil, and thanks all fo0r the explanation. which is fine until one day somebody DOES just get a fingertip to it, but does get...

What Menace says is how it is applied universally as far as I can determine.

He stuck his hand out and only got his fingertips to it. The referee said that there was no realistic chance of intercepting the ball. Hence the...

So let's sum up .. If something very like this happened again, but there was no knock on, who would give the try, and who would penalise green...

I actually think the 'realistic chance' wording is fine .. and that is how I ref it. But I don't think that aligns to the guidance given to pro refs

CR, you've put it in a nutshell. This is why I say "harsh but fair" - with a question mark - because he clearly didn't *intend* to knock it on, so...

Perhaps they should change the name of the offence : a reckless knock forward , or something Le Roux surely thought he had a realistic chance...

Whilst asking why Willie Le Roux would want to knock forward a ball that had he caught would have led to an easy run in sounds a compelling argument...

In that case, they'd better change the wording of the law then, because at the moment it says A player must not intentionally knock the ball...

WR guidance is no longer about whether it was intentional or not . They don't care. It about whether one hand or two was used

It seemed harsh to me. Why would he want to knock it forward when there was nobody in front of him?

I remember the incident. For me, it was a very clear attempt at an interception (IICR Poite initially said he thought he was going for the...

Go for it one handed - you roll the dice. Catch it you win, miss it you lose. 7 pts or a sit down. I've had a couple this year: winners and...

It's one of those ones where the referee is correctly following ill thought through and over-prescriptive WR guideline WR are intent on...

Seems to be standard fare these days if you go for it one-handed. If you succeed, 7 points. If you fail, 10 mins in the bin. Harsh but fair? Esp as...

Meh. I've seen a 17 year colts winger attempting an intercept deep inside the oppo half not quite complete the action attempted, knock the ball UP...

No. I didn't say that at all. I remarked that whatever the interpretation may be based on the laws (I think CR said all that) its clear that...

Good post

LOL again :)

I'm wary to tread in here, but... This is the top tier of domestic Women's Football, a game that still struggles to get taken seriously. It's an...

Its strange isn't it Hee hee , perhaps no one told the authors of the protocol about the existence of new law 13.3 either !

True enough, but what about this (from the same source), which would seem to indicate they can't consider it: 2.3 If the referee agrees to refer...

That had me laughing out loud :biggrin: