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breako
13-03-16, 21:03
At match U13, a break is on. A scrambling defender grabs the ball carriers jersey (the collar area). Ball carrier was running very fast and the neckline of his jersey pulled back against his neck.

I stopped play - immediately, even though they had an overlap and a very nice break on [safety first - especially at this age].

I sanctioned for a dangerous tackle [penalty], rather than a high tackle.

Gave out to team and told them the best place to aim for in any time of tackle is the hip area and told them all to tackle safely or they would be sanctioned.

Any thoughts on this?

As in, in general collar tug is always out? Yes / No / Depends

Thanks

ctrainor
13-03-16, 21:03
Good call. High tackle and probably not deliberate. Explaining that to kids was the right thing to do.

RobLev
13-03-16, 21:03
At match U13, a break is on. A scrambling defender grabs the ball carriers jersey (the collar area). Ball carrier was running very fast and the neckline of his jersey pulled back against his neck.

I stopped play - immediately, even though they had an overlap and a very nice break on [safety first - especially at this age].

I sanctioned for a dangerous tackle [penalty], rather than a high tackle.

Gave out to team and told them the best place to aim for in any time of tackle is the hip area and told them all to tackle safely or they would be sanctioned.

Any thoughts on this?

As in, in general collar tug is always out? Yes / No / Depends

Thanks

One assumes that the collar is in the normal place - ie above the line of the shoulders? In which case it's always a high tackle.

In any event it's a dangerous tackle - even NFL has banned it, as a "horse-collar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse-collar_tackle)" tackle, given its potential for injury.

Rushforth
13-03-16, 22:03
One assumes that the collar is in the normal place - ie above the line of the shoulders? In which case it's always a high tackle.

Collar "area" does not sound like "by the collar".

Grab a shirt on the back on the spine, and if the collar is closer to the grip than the shoulders are, the force is going to pull the front of the collar up to the neck.

Grab the collar itself, this will happen very quickly. Perhaps why adults nowadays where tighter shirts. At U13, quite likely the shirt was baggy enough to grasp hold of.

Camquin
13-03-16, 22:03
Given the break would they have probably scored bar foul play.
If so blow for safety, chat and give a Penalty Try.

If they would not have probably scored stick with the penalty.

If they do it again, then you may need to escalate, does Ireland use cards at U13?

Dixie
15-03-16, 13:03
Given the break would they have probably scored bar foul play.
If so blow for safety, chat and give a Penalty Try.

If they would not have probably scored stick with the penalty.

If they do it again, then you may need to escalate, does Ireland use cards at U13? Given that we've seen innumerable overlaps butchered by paid international players, the prospect of an overlap at U.13 "probably" leading to a try is a bit of a stretch.

Collar grab = high tackle and PK: good call. At U.13, it's almost certainly not a cynical offence. PK and warning: good call.