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SimonSmith
28-10-17, 00:10
An appeal to the cognoscenti.

I had pneumonia in March (both sides).
It came back again earlier this month.

Doc sent me for a CT scan.

It turns out that my lower left is partially collapsed. I don't know any more than that, and see a Pulmo on Tuesday.

Does anyone have any experience? Could I, realistically, referee next Saturday? (My fiancee went apeshit when I said I could probably cover this weekend's match...)

What's the fix?

Rich_NL
28-10-17, 07:10
I'm not a doctor, but "collapsed lung" is a blanket term for different conditions with different causes, treatments and risks, so you can't conclude much at all from others' experience. If you've recently had a recurrence of pneumonia you probably want to play it safe, but the specialist is the person to listen to.

In any case, you should probably let the match organisers know you'll know more on Tuesday. Good luck!

Dickie E
28-10-17, 08:10
what did Dr Google say?

Pegleg
28-10-17, 10:10
I would doubt you could referee at the moment. but a qualified opinion is what you want.

OB..
28-10-17, 11:10
I caught pneumonia the last time I was living in the USA (1990). For some weeks I was totally lacking in energy, so if yours has returned, I would be surprised if you could manage to referee.

Blackberry
28-10-17, 11:10
Hi simon
Another non-medical complication is that if there was an incident in your match next week could you be (wrongly) blamed for officiating while suffering from an illness?

But I love your attitude.... bit like the Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. :)

SimonSmith
28-10-17, 15:10
Fleshwound

Blackberry
28-10-17, 18:10
You've had worse. :)

didds
28-10-17, 18:10
I know nothing about that which you descrribe.

BUT I would say your health and well being is worth more than refereeing that game.

take the weekend off. Stay well.

didds

Pegleg
28-10-17, 18:10
Agreed Didds. I pushed a game when not right almost a yer ago and it was a mess. Took a while and this forum to recover from it. Enjoy a break!

Blackberry
28-10-17, 19:10
Didds, that is the best obscure cultural reference ever. You are a god.

Taff
28-10-17, 20:10
... But I love your attitude.... bit like the Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. :)

Fleshwound

For those that have no idea who the Black Knight was, it's HERE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs). :biggrin:

Paule23
29-10-17, 18:10
How do you feel and how does high intensity work impact you? I would suggest a partially collapsed lung would make it very difficult for you to be as active and mobile around the pitch as you usually are. Would you be happy being behind the game, having difficulty recurring from a sprint phase etc?

Only you know how you feel, which is more important than a diagnosis. But be honest with yourself about whether you would do you or the players justice in your current state (which is probably still twice as fast/fit as I am!)

Taff
29-10-17, 18:10
It would be interesting to know how long you've had this condition.

My point is, how many games have you done with a collapsed lung? :wow:

chbg
30-10-17, 00:10
Surely the main question is whether you stay with a fiancee who has a different perspective on rugby to you?

ChrisR
30-10-17, 11:10
I saw SS this Saturday on the sideline. Trust me, his lungs were in fine fettle.

SimonSmith
30-10-17, 13:10
I saw SS this Saturday on the sideline. Trust me, his lungs were in fine fettle.

That's my normal game volume. No effort required


Surely the main question is whether you stay with a fiancee who has a different perspective on rugby to you?

She's incredibly supportive. Just kinda health obsessed. In fairness to her, I have a habit - you might have picked up on it - of downplaying health issues.


It would be interesting to know how long you've had this condition.

My point is, how many games have you done with a collapsed lung? :wow:

That thought had occurred to me. I find out Tuesday.

Thanks for all the answers. One of the refs in my Society has had two in the last couple of years so he was able to talk me through it. And then remove me from the schedule for he is the Assignments Officer

Rich_NL
30-10-17, 16:10
Good luck tomorrow, and speedy recovery!

Phil E
30-10-17, 17:10
What advice would you give to a fellow referee asking you the same question? :chin:

SimonSmith
30-10-17, 17:10
What advice would you give to a fellow referee asking you the same question? :chin:

"Do as I say, not as I do"

tim White
30-10-17, 19:10
Don't poke the Bear that has just gone Apeshit. :knuppel2: Prove your fitness first, THEN ref.:pepper: Good luck on both counts.:biggrin:

SimonSmith
01-11-17, 00:11
So, for those who are interested:

I was at the pulmonologist today. The (abbreviated) dialog was:
Dr: "Oh, this is good"
Mate, I got told that I had a partial collapse. How is this good?
"Well, compared to 2 years ago..."
Say what now? The only thing I had 2 years was the CT for the hernia.
"Oh yes, They got the same area of your lung as well. Look at THIS area and compare it to THAT area..."
So, if I hear you right, there was a bigger collapse a long time ago and it's getting better on its own?
"Oh yes. And I'm going to give you meds so it continues to get better."

So, it turns out I've been refereeing for at least two years with a partially collapsed lung that has been gradually getting better.

I have had an...interesting day.

I am also apparently fit to referee.

didds
01-11-17, 10:11
I'd change your doctors.

If you saw your car mechanic and he said "Oh, your brakes were shot two years ago, but they seem to be getting better on their own" wouldn't you question whey your mechanic let you drive around with faulty brakes for two years without telling you? ( (c)Crap analogies R us)

What else isn't your doctor telling you?

didds

SimonSmith
01-11-17, 13:11
I'd change your doctors.

If you saw your car mechanic and he said "Oh, your brakes were shot two years ago, but they seem to be getting better on their own" wouldn't you question whey your mechanic let you drive around with faulty brakes for two years without telling you? ( (c)Crap analogies R us)

What else isn't your doctor telling you?

didds

Different doctor. Two years it was someone looking for a sports hernia; this guy is a lung specialist who seems to know what he's talking about.
But yeah, I'm a bit annoyed about the miss from 2 years ago.

Phil E
01-11-17, 14:11
At least you had a spare :biggrin:

Lee Lifeson-Peart
01-11-17, 19:11
Here's coincidence...sort of.

I'm just watching a documentary about musical superman Nile Rodgers which leads me on to lungs.

Chic bass player and NR's longtime collaborator Bernard Edwards collapsed and died in 1996 in Tokyo after a concert after complaining of feeling a bit unwell during the concert - he insisted on carrying on to the finish at the Budokan.

That appears to have been pneumonia. He was 43.

Good Times (see what I did there) there'll be plenty more.....just rest up for a bit.

That's my uneducated advice.

Get well soon.