View Full Version : rucking - a dying art ?

26-09-05, 13:09
just clarifying as I'm a very newly qualified ref and only had one game so far.

Maul going forward - collapses or is taken down by ball holder who doesn't get it to the floor, scrum goes to defending team.

How soon do we blow ? Can someone clarify the situation on rucking - how much time are we to allow as I've heard that we shouldn't be allowing any (or very little) rucking and should penalise for not rolling away / releasing or just a trapped ball and scrum.

any tips appreciated...alot of my players love the rucking though !

26-09-05, 13:09
Once the maul has gone to ground,if the ball is not immediatly available,blow for the scrum.Do not allow piles to occur because bad thing happen.

26-09-05, 14:09
If a maul collapses without deliberate effort which you would penalise then remember that it is still a maul - so turnover posession. In order for it to be a ruck the players must be on their feet. The ball on the floor is only one element of a ruck.

Do not allow a prolonged scrabble on the floor, no matter how much some of the players enjoy it - a pile up is a safety issue and some poor so-and-so at the bottom with 20 stone on his neck may not be enjoying it as much as those at the top of the pile.

Unless the ball is clearly available at the back of the mess and can be played immediately then blow up, collapsed maul, taken in by... scrum to opposition.

26-09-05, 17:09
thanks guys, one final question...

maul going forward collapses. The ball is on the floor but unavailable. Scrum half looking for it, but its under a pile of bodies. Is that a scrum to the attacking side ?

Robert Burns
26-09-05, 17:09
Again, providing it's collapsed through no fault then it's turnover ball, unsuccessful maul.

Should blow as soon as you can see the ball isn't available.

Mike Whittaker
26-09-05, 18:09
thanks guys, one final question...

Just one more point for you Lawsons...

Remember that good refereeing requires a balance of preventive and punitive measures...

Whilst no harm in clarifying what you should do when the maul collapses, your first concern could be to make sure you know what you are doing before it collapses both in the interests of safety and continuity. Any assessor worth his salt will be more impressed by that than the giving of post collapse decisions.

Talk to the maul in terms of encouraging them to stay up, join correctly, don't pull down, leave that leg alone etc and let's see it now, use it or lose it etc. Keep moving round to maintain good vision.

With youngsters better to blow before collapse if possible.. never mind if you get it too early, no coach will dare complain.
With seniors, if it really is a collapse then why not blow immediately...?

...and then worry about which way to give the scrum..

Good luck with it!! :)