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<![CDATA[The Rugby Referees' Forum]]> http://www.rugbyrefs.com/ en Fri, 18 May 2012 00:09:19 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.rugbyrefs.com/images/rugbyrefs/misc/rss.png <![CDATA[The Rugby Referees' Forum]]> http://www.rugbyrefs.com/ Restart kick not going 10? http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14787-Restart-kick-not-going-10&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 22:05:59 GMT Hi all!

I'm watching some matches from last weekend's London's Sevens.

On the Spain vs Zimbabwe match, this happened: Very high restart kick that bounces about two feet from the 10m line and goes nearly vertical again. No player from either team touches the ball, but a spaniard -the team which kicked- is near the ball, possibly in front of the ball.

Referee blows for not 10. AFAIK, there is no seven-a-side variation regarding this piece of law (only about the sanction: re-kick/scrum vs free kick) and it is not stated anywhere that the ball should travel 10m in the air -grubber dropkick is a legal restart kick if it goes 10m-.

Shouldn't the ref have waited until the ball was played by the kicking team, crossed the 10m line or come to a stop?

Could the spaniard (if he was in front of the ball and preventing the zimbabweans to play it if the wished) have been pinged for offside? ]]> Elite Referee Questions MrQeu http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14787-Restart-kick-not-going-10 Way to randomise the Quiz? http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14786-Way-to-randomise-the-Quiz&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 21:41:39 GMT Is there a way to randomise the questions in the quiz? Each time I start the quiz I get exactly the same questions. Cheers. Is there a way to randomise the questions in the quiz?

Each time I start the quiz I get exactly the same questions.

Cheers. ]]> LearnRugbyUnionLaws.com Forum chalksta http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14786-Way-to-randomise-the-Quiz Heineken Cup Final Anyone going? http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14785-Heineken-Cup-Final-Anyone-going&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 19:09:22 GMT Now then Now then Guys and Gals My club Hawcoat Park will be making its annual fancy dress pilgrimage to HQ this weekend We will be dressed as Jubilee themed Jimmy Savilles all 62 of us. If you are there please look me up and we can share a beer. Probably be in Richmond around 1 and moving to... Now then Now then Guys and Gals
My club Hawcoat Park will be making its annual fancy dress pilgrimage to HQ this weekend
We will be dressed as Jubilee themed Jimmy Savilles all 62 of us.
If you are there please look me up and we can share a beer.
Probably be in Richmond around 1 and moving to Twickenham around 3
As my dad is from Belfast I will be cheering for Ulster ]]> General Union talk ctrainor http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14785-Heineken-Cup-Final-Anyone-going Rowing for Cross Training http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14784-Rowing-for-Cross-Training&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 14:19:56 GMT During the off season I'm trying to have a break from reffing and also from running, resting the mind as much as the body!
I've been using the concept 2 rower and the cross trainer. Anyone else like using these?
I did a 2k this morning in 7:35 which is a start. I prefer my 12 minute test though where I got 3010m last week! ]]> Fitness Forum Chunky Charvis http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14784-Rowing-for-Cross-Training <![CDATA[It's official. Americans are slow witted and can't remember things!]]> http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14783-It-s-official-Americans-are-slow-witted-and-can-t-remember-things!&goto=newpost Thu, 17 May 2012 10:36:53 GMT _How fructose slows the brain, hampering memory and learning_ (http://www.stonehearthnewsletters.com/how-fructose-slows-the-brain-hampering-memory-and-learning-and-how-omega-3s-can-turn-it-around/fructose/) ---Quote--- A new UCLA study is the first to show how a diet steadily high in... How fructose slows the brain, hampering memory and learning

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A new UCLA study is the first to show how a diet steadily high in fructose slows the brain, hampering memory and learning

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American consumes more than 40 pounds of high-fructose corn syrup per year, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

:pepper: :pepper: :pepper: :pepper: :tongue: ]]> Non-Rugby talk Phil E http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14783-It-s-official-Americans-are-slow-witted-and-can-t-remember-things! Premiership clubs to sue RFU over lost revenue from 2015 Rugby World Cup http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14782-Premiership-clubs-to-sue-RFU-over-lost-revenue-from-2015-Rugby-World-Cup&goto=newpost Wed, 16 May 2012 16:23:25 GMT England’s Premiership clubs are set to demand millions in compensation from the Rugby Football Union to counter a potential loss in income during the 2015 World Cup. A move for a huge claim, possibly exceeding £10million, will be rubber-stamped as soon as the International Rugby Board, who meet... England’s Premiership clubs are set to demand millions in compensation from the Rugby Football Union to counter a potential loss in income during the 2015 World Cup.

A move for a huge claim, possibly exceeding £10million, will be rubber-stamped as soon as the International Rugby Board, who meet on Thursday in Dublin, announce the exact dates of the tournament that is being hosted by England.

Under international rugby regulations, the country staging the Rugby World Cup may not play any professional domestic matches during the tournament.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rug...#ixzz1v3BxVu39 ]]> General Union talk Simon Thomas http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14782-Premiership-clubs-to-sue-RFU-over-lost-revenue-from-2015-Rugby-World-Cup scrum time.. http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14781-scrum-time&goto=newpost Tue, 15 May 2012 18:15:26 GMT http://www.rugbydump.com/2012/05/256...rugby-round-12

about 3m40s into this clip. Your thoughts on the scrum that leads to a blues try.

for my money, the entire blues backrow has broken far too early and it's PK to the Lions. ]]> Southern Hemisphere Pro Rugby Union Discussion. irishref http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14781-scrum-time New global ELVs http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14780-New-global-ELVs&goto=newpost Tue, 15 May 2012 18:13:22 GMT http://www.irb.com/newsmedia/mediazone/pressrelease/newsid=2062222.html#irb+unions+sanction+global+law+trials Discuss!! http://www.irb.com/newsmedia/mediazo...bal+law+trials

Discuss!! ]]> General Union talk KML1 http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14780-New-global-ELVs YC come back on? http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14779-YC-come-back-on&goto=newpost Tue, 15 May 2012 13:31:37 GMT When can a YC come back on, I had two last week luckily both were at stoppage points, but my question is when can a YC come back on the field of play? Do I have to stop time off, or can they enter at a tackle as it's a point where I could end the game? ]]> General League talk ckuxmann http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14779-YC-come-back-on Offside in-goal http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14778-Offside-in-goal&goto=newpost Tue, 15 May 2012 10:09:07 GMT I am very surprised no-one has raised this one yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTxxG...&feature=g-u-u

While we wait for SAReferees to sort out what they think of it, what do we think of it?

I always thought that if the ball was over the goal line, no tackle, ruck or maul could be formed, and any that had been formed prior was ended. Given this, and assuming the ball was over the line, I reckon Daniel Braid was hard done by. ]]> Southern Hemisphere Pro Rugby Union Discussion. damo http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14778-Offside-in-goal QTI and returning YC http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14777-QTI-and-returning-YC&goto=newpost Tue, 15 May 2012 08:31:08 GMT this is something we've debated before
- blue have a YC player, time up, waiting for break in play to return
- blue kick the ball out
- should red be allowed to take a QTI (assuming it's on, of course) or do you stop them to allow blue player back on

On Saturday Quins v Northampton this happened. Quins took the QTI and creating a try-scoring opportunity, but Andrew Small called them back to allow Saints YC to return.

(Ironically ten minutes earlier Quins had taken a quick tap, and were called back for that, to give Small time to give him the YC!). ]]> crossref http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14777-QTI-and-returning-YC London Welsh v Cornish Pirates AT OXFORD UNITED! http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14776-London-Welsh-v-Cornish-Pirates-AT-OXFORD-UNITED!&goto=newpost Tue, 15 May 2012 08:03:03 GMT Bit shocked at this. I was planning on going to Old Deer Park for this, for what would have been a great occasion. Not so sure I fancy it now! Bit shocked at this. I was planning on going to Old Deer Park for this, for what would have been a great occasion. Not so sure I fancy it now! ]]> Northern Hemisphere Pro Rugby Union Discussion. Chunky Charvis http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14776-London-Welsh-v-Cornish-Pirates-AT-OXFORD-UNITED! 90-Degree Turnover: New Scrum or Same Scrum? http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14773-90-Degree-Turnover-New-Scrum-or-Same-Scrum&goto=newpost Mon, 14 May 2012 17:26:22 GMT The below-quoted text can be found on the SA Refs Duty Ref Area (http://www.sareferees.com/ref-replies/duty-ref-410--stuart-berry-/2829538/). ---Quote (Originally by Stu Berry - Duty Ref)--- *2. Name: Jack * *Question: *Hi there, I was wondering what the official interpretation is when a... The below-quoted text can be found on the SA Refs Duty Ref Area.

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Originally Posted by Stu Berry - Duty Ref

2. Name: Jack
Question: Hi there, I was wondering what the official interpretation is when a scrum turnover happens after the 80 minutes are up? I've seen it ruled two different ways this season in the Super 15. (Highlanders vs Crusaders and Force vs Waratahs if I remember correctly).
Cheers
Stu Berry: Hi Jack. It’s an interesting one, and you are spot on. A scrum that collapses and gets reset is the same scrum, and so is incomplete. A scrum that is a turnover through 90 degrees is a new scrum, and so time needs to be called once the turnover has been completed.

One for the designated members, perhaps? The above bolded text is NOT how I would expect it to be refereed, so I'm wondering if this is in fact a new application of law, or whether I'm simply old hat.

KML, this could be your vindication! :cool: ]]> Scrum Forum Bryan http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14773-90-Degree-Turnover-New-Scrum-or-Same-Scrum back chat http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14772-back-chat&goto=newpost Mon, 14 May 2012 13:12:15 GMT Watching the Warrington Catalonia game, there is a scrum, then back chat. The spot of the ok was moved 10m up field is this correct or is the scrum normally the pk spot? Watching the Warrington Catalonia game, there is a scrum, then back chat. The spot of the ok was moved 10m up field is this correct or is the scrum normally the pk spot? ]]> Pro Rugby League Discussion. ckuxmann http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14772-back-chat New RFU Mini pilot - Shaping The Game http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14771-New-RFU-Mini-pilot-Shaping-The-Game&goto=newpost Mon, 14 May 2012 11:42:08 GMT The 3 year Mini pilot is officially announced. http://www.rfu.com/ManagingRugby/ShapingTheGame.aspx The 3 year Mini pilot is officially announced.

http://www.rfu.com/ManagingRugby/ShapingTheGame.aspx ]]> Mini/Midi Rugby (U12 and younger) baftabill http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?14771-New-RFU-Mini-pilot-Shaping-The-Game