<![CDATA[The Rugby Referees' Forum]]> http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums en Thu, 09 Sep 2010 02:28:10 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg <![CDATA[The Rugby Referees' Forum]]> http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums Las Vegas Sevens???? http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10887&goto=newpost Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:23:40 GMT Have been offered a biz class return to Vegas by a ladychum( needs to use airmiles) so fancy the VEGAS 7S. Anyone out there (over tut pond) got any gen for me. Wouldn't mind helping out at any pre-tourney social tens/7s, womens 7s. etc. Have reasonable c.v. (NY 7S final, Hong kong tens/7s(men and womens) ref and pitch marshal etc., 07 rwc video arbitre, 2010 wrwc ref liaison etc.). Any handy hints re hotels,bars, rugby clubs, local refsoc?? ]]> Sevens/Tens/Touch Forum B52 REF http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10887 <![CDATA[Now that's what you call "setting your stall"]]> http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10886&goto=newpost Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:48:33 GMT Now that's what you call "setting your stall"

:clap: :clap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW5pq...ayer_embedded#!

Have to say, i'm not happy about the "coaches" signal from the side though :nono: too many hints of wendyball for me :cool: ]]> TheBFG http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10886 First Game w/Lifting : advice http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10885&goto=newpost Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:09:34 GMT Ok, so this weekend I am reaching the dizzy heights of U16.. and it will be my first match with lifting in the LO.... ...and, of course, for the PLAYERS, their first match with lifting any advice? what should I look for? where would you stand for this game? Ok, so this weekend I am reaching the dizzy heights of U16.. and it will be my first match with lifting in the LO....
...and, of course, for the PLAYERS, their first match with lifting

any advice?
what should I look for?
where would you stand for this game? ]]> Line-out Forum crossref http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10885 Running at the ref. http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10884&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:04:05 GMT So I have a selection game Saturday. Four 20 minute quarters.

At one point in the game we are in open play when there is a turnover ball. A Red opposition player ends up with the ball about 15 feet in front of me at my 2 o'clock position. Play is fragmented with no discernible lines.

Red player starts running straight at me.
I look to my right and left quickly, there are no players within 10 feet of me either side.
As he gets closer I take a couple of paces to my left, he seems to adjust his run toward me and is still coming straight at me.
I look around again and am completely in the open.
At this point he runs straight into me with his right shoulder down.
I twist sideways and he cannons off me.

Peep. Penalty to black.

Red player: "What for"?
Me: "You deliberately ran into me"
Red player: "You were in my way"
Me: "there was room all round me, but you decided to run straight at me. Penalty to black" Can't remember whether I said unsportsmanlike conduct, but that is what I was thinking.

I am 100% confident that he deliberately ran into me, maybe trying to use me as a shield against the opposition.

Was the penalty correct? ]]> Phil E http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10884 Diabetes and Rugby http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10883&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:01:40 GMT Slightly odd request here maybe...

I'm doing some low key research into diabetes and rugby How rugby players with diabetes cope/handle their diabetes, whether it impacts their rugby or not at all etc. Rugby lifestyles and diabetes... training should help diabetes II (at least) ,... but the typical post match meal (being high in processed fat and sugars IME) and the largess of beer may not.

Diabetes I or II ... Union or League come to that! :-) Players or Refs :-)

Have you any experiences, or knowledge of such areas... anything related to diabetes and rugby... could you drop me a line? Confidentiality assured etc... PM via this site is sufficient.

cheers

didds ]]> Non-Rugby talk didds http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10883 First game this Sunday! http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10882&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:14:14 GMT Finally going to be let loose on two unsuspecting teams - ok so its two 14 year old sides but we all have to start somewhere! I know I should try to get to the breakdown early and then try not to get in the way, watch the offside lines and (most importantly of all) not get hung up if(more likely... Finally going to be let loose on two unsuspecting teams - ok so its two 14 year old sides but we all have to start somewhere!

I know I should try to get to the breakdown early and then try not to get in the way, watch the offside lines and (most importantly of all) not get hung up if(more likely when) I make a mistake.

Anyone any other advice? ]]> General Rugby talk Lenin1924 http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10882 A maul can only take place... http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10881&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:40:46 GMT ... In the field of play [Law 17.1(a)].

A bit eoteric and theoretical this, but what happens if at a maul, the ball is being wrestled by several parties on the infield side of the maul, and:

1)most players have at least a foot in touch, but the ball itself has not crossed the plane of touch? Which foot constitute the offside line - the hind foot of all people bound in, or the hind foot only of those who are not in touch? Indeed, is there a maul at all?

2) all bar the ball carrier and one opponent have a foot in touch. Is there still a maul?

3) all bar the ball carrier have a foot in touch. Is there still a maul? ]]> Ruck/Maul/Tackle Forum Dixie http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10881 pass goes forward when? http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10880&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:50:55 GMT Incident from the London double header on Saturday. London Irish's last try, pass goes long to the right wing bounces and then rolls forward finally being picked up by the winger who ambles over the line for the 4th and bonus point try.
From memory i believe the original pass was 'legal' ie not forward but when it bounced it went towards Sarries line and was collected well forward of the passer's position (when he pased). Rob Debney (?) was happy, correct call? ]]> General Rugby talk JohnP http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10880 Eales family in England http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10879&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:18:40 GMT I know this is a long shot, but as Eales is a famous rugby name, I thought I would give it a go and see what pops up.
I have started to trace my wife's family history. She is an Eales by birth and although I haven't managed to find a link with the great John Eales' family yet, I have managed to trace the bloodlines back to Towcester, England. The Eales boys from Towcester were apparently shoe-makers in the early 1800s and one of them decided (of his own accord), to hop on a boat in 1856 and try his luck in Oz. A few generations down the track, I married his great-great-grand daughter

Just wondering if anyone on this forum is from around that Towcester area and if you are aware of anyone with the Eales surname? Thought that being men of rugby, the name would ring a bell. ]]> Non-Rugby talk The Fat http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10879 Flanker early break and potential obstruction http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10878&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:56:31 GMT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUXukM4-H8o

At about 2.45 on this clip

Green 6 breaks early from the scrum and wanders across the field, effectively acting as a screen for the inside runner.

Did he actually obstruct anyone? I don't think so, but it appears to have been a deliberate tactic. ]]> General Rugby talk TigerCraig http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10878 Mauls in Lineouts. http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10877&goto=newpost Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:07:21 GMT Apologies if this is a thick question, but an incident happened in todays England v New Zealand WRWC Final game which got me thinking.

At a lineout, if one team catches the ball and a maul forms but stays stationary (ie the lineout hasn't ended) is it turnover ball, or does the attacking team get the put in?

Quote:
19.9 BEGINNING AND ENDING A LINEOUT
(b) Lineout ends. The lineout ends when the ball or a player carrying it leaves the lineout. This includes the following: ....
When a ruck or maul develops in a lineout, and all the feet of all the players in the ruck or maul move beyond the line of touch, the lineout ends. When the ball becomes unplayable in a lineout, the lineout ends. Play restarts with a scrum.
But it doesn't go on to say who gets the put in. Are we expected to apply the same rules for rucks and mauls in lineouts as we do for rucks and mauls in open play? I assume we are. :chin: ]]> Line-out Forum Taff http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10877 Spear why no RC? http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10876&goto=newpost Sun, 05 Sep 2010 13:16:09 GMT See here approx 3:25 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RijpE...ayer_embedded#!

Why no RC? ]]> Toby Warren http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10876 U12 in an U13 team? (UK) http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10875&goto=newpost Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:49:21 GMT I am trying to find out what the regulations are for having a player play for a different age group.

Our club's U12 team (midi) has folded due to lack of interest.

However, one of their players, want to join our U13 team. He is bigger (taller/wider) than most of the U13's, and can carry himself well on the field. There would be no obvious danger to him, and his parents are happy for him to play for us.

Does anyone know what the ruling is for this and where to find the ruling as a reference?

I heard that one year either way was allowed (with some forms signed?) but this crosses from Midi into Junior rugby, so perhaps the regulations are different for this? ]]> Junior Rugby Psychic http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10875 Pulling out of a Ruck http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10873&goto=newpost Sun, 05 Sep 2010 02:27:02 GMT Can anyone point to the place in law (if it is there) that says you can't pull a player out of a ruck if you are bound in, I can find it for a maul, but not a ruck.


Thankyou
Cody Kuxmann ]]> Ruck/Maul/Tackle Forum ckuxmann http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10873 <![CDATA[Line Out "Management"]]> http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10872&goto=newpost Sun, 05 Sep 2010 01:49:24 GMT Was watching South Africa vs Wallabies last night and noticed Wayne Barnes' approach to the management of the lineout. At least twice (maybe more), he pulled the lineout after the throw to get a re-throw and manage an issue that had occurred during the formation of the original line-out. The first one was at 10:20 (1st Half) when Australia had 2 receivers due to one player moving up late. Barnes blew the whistle and said something like "2 receivers, in the line please" and let the Wallabies throw in again.

It seems like there is a definite trend to managing issues with the lineout in the first instance, much the same as scrums, through a reset rather than a first up FK. Is this something everyone else has found? What sort of offences at the line-out would you give a reset rather than a FK for? ]]> Line-out Forum Iron_Lung http://www.rugbyrefs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10872