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Mine also Council owned pitches have multiple users, their priority is keeping the grass good enough for everyone all the time Rugby clubs exist to play , they are more likely to put up with the damage, after all it the 1xv pitch probably will have two weeks to recover before the next game

teams will be doing this with a complete expectation that the ref probably won't allow it. So they won't complain when you tell them not to

discard all the scores and give the award to the club that offers the bottomless pint glass if more than one club, rotate each season

yes, I thought it was probably that.

It may me wonder about rugby's Laws How can an action be culpable under law, but not punishable in the Laws of rugby

An interesting case here in England .

But the last two weeks.. it's back

@didds it's not so different between arriving at a tackle quickly in an attempt to jackle (good) and charging into a tackle (dangerous) It's not that hard to call.

Because they are trundling .. so it's OK But if they built up speed and started flying ... then peep

For clarity, I think the expected decision is a 5m scrum, and that is absolutely what I would give (But Law does seem to say that some intention is required..unlike the laws on touch that make it completely clear that if the ball were to hit red on the back of the head and go onto touch it's a...

Great question The ball just happened to hit Blue? Then the last person the play the ball was Red So blue options of scrum or 22 If blue stuck his foot out and played the ball then 5m scrum red

Played: The ball is played when it is intentionally touched by a player. which obviously includes a charge down, a kick and trying to catch it

Played is better than touched Intentionally is the word used in the Laws rather than deliberately

it's not easy this law drafting mullarkey

so if I was in the WR laws committee I'd propose a tweak to the definition so that it said - to make it clearer that that you are only 'in possession' and liable to being tackled, once you have touched it

there is lacuna in the Law as well. If you stop the shot clock then when you restart - should it resume where you stopped it (tough if it was say 4s to go) - should it resume at 90s ? seems a bit generous something else?

I dunno? I think a lot happens before you touch the ball. But yes, I guess if we asked WR they might well say that What about a charge down , I charge down the ball, touching it, and the ball bounces up into the air and I go to catch it .. am I in possession and ok to be tackled It would be...

I agree - but wouldn't we say exactly the the same about Tim Stimpson when he was tackled by Andre Vos It's kinda the whole point. tackling someone who is attempting to control the ball is legal.

kinda interesting though - didds and you both had a go at applying the laws. didds blows his whistle at 4:36 and gets the medics off the pitch you don't get suspicious until 4:52 -.. and blow your whistle at 5:00 I am not saying who is right or wrong.. both approaches probably fine . I...

Stop the clock at all ? And if stopped Restart the shot clock at same place or reset to zero ? (And same qs at later points)