If you likke "we" couild just drop the word "Quick" and just call it a "throw in" (TI).
howzat? Does that solve the problem? Because frankly its a problem that doesn't exist except in semantics.
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Well, if they delay indefinitely, eventually the ref will penalise them for failing to form a line out... So there is a limit enshrined in Law
Well, if they delay indefinitely, eventually the ref will penalise them for failing to form a line out... So there is a limit enshrined in Law
I don't disagree.
Another possible tweak could be to allow the ref to call ’use it' in line with practice at rucks and scrums. Then they'd have five seconds to either take the QTI or give up and have a lineout
The use it call seems to work well enough in other circumstances
We could increase the number of angels dancing on the pinhead by discussing whether knocking the ball on when trying to pick it up for a QTI meant you lost the right to a QTI.Indeed, UI wouldn't stifle creativity [in the same way it hasn't stifled ruck, maul or scrum creativity] , rather it would help quicken the game, in the example that was the catalyst to this thread the MaoriBlacks [or any other team equally as creative] could still pretend to take a QTI + then roll the ball along the floor away from the retriever + then walk away from it + then go back for it [provided no opponent has now raced to it & beaten them to the now available ball & touched it] and then throw it in 'provided' they could achieve this within the new 'use it' timeframe.
FWIW i'd go further & say any retriever who voluntarily releases the ball instead of lobbing it in, has voluntarily ceased his right to the advantages that a QTI offers.
We could increase the number of angels dancing on the pinhead by discussing whether knocking the ball on when trying to pick it up for a QTI meant you lost the right to a QTI.
I don't disagree.
Another possible tweak could be to allow the ref to call ’use it' in line with practice at rucks and scrums. Then they'd have five seconds to either take the QTI or give up and have a lineout
The use it call seems to work well enough in other circumstances
I don't disagree.
Ref calls use it, opponents all rush to positions to prevent the throw
Shouldn't a good defending team do this regardless (from a coaching perspective)? Not sure a change in law / ref call would change that incentive? And obviously they can't go to a position to prevent the throw taking place at all (eg right in front of the throwing player) / or prevent it going 5m?
Regardless of that point, I agree there really is no need for a further law change here. We have the appropriate tools - from management to sanction for time-wasting - that it really is not an issue nor should it become one.