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    [Law] Re: Knock on into the dead ball area.

    I think that's an excellent point. That and the question of 'what will 30 players expect' is probably enough for me to lean away from my prior answer and endorse the scrum. Thanks.
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    [Law] Re: Knock on into the dead ball area.

    Given the infrequency of assessments at the moment, you could probably say whatever you wanted and I'd be happy just to have been assessed! Summary of my position is much the same a crossref has...
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    [Law] Re: Knock on into the dead ball area.

    I think that either 22DO or the 5m defending scrum are 'sellable' on the day, but I do think that the best answer here is the 22DO.

    If it had happened to me at the weekend my instinctive on-field...
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    [Ruck] Re: Under 10's - Rucking

    1. Shame that the Regs are drafted in a way that leaves room for interpretation, but looking also at the overall progression graphic...
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    [Junior] Re: Knocked out but played on

    "Might" have concussion -- received (or may have received) some sort of impact to the head
    "Suspicion" -- any of the flags indicated by the headcase questions / observations are positive
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    [Junior] Re: Knocked out but played on

    There's a risk of perverse outcomes here: if refs start to tell coaches that ANY assessment (by anyone) means a player can't continue with the game then an incentive to avoid the assessment has been...
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    [Junior] Re: Knocked out but played on

    I'd love to be in a game where HIA was in place as that would mean that I've reached (in England) Level 2 from my current Level 11! As has been pointed out the HIA protocol is only in place for elite...
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    Re: When is the ball out?

    take a look at 18.2 a-d. Player starts in touch, finishes in touch, and hits the ball that is already over the plane of touch. That scenarios isn't covered in 18.2 a-d, therefore the ball is in touch...
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    Re: When is the ball out?

    In my last 2 games in penalty (kicking for touch) scenario I've had players run into touch and attempt to knock the ball -- which has crossed the plane of touch -- back into play by jumping up so...
  10. [Ruck] Re: Should the ladder/caterpiller ruck be outlawed?

    I'm not sure that course of action is available to us as refs!! ;-)

    I'm definitely in the "use it" camp: the ball tends to have been clearly won quite some time before a picture like this emerges,...
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    [RWC] Re: Knock on inside a maul

    I would -- per your suggestion --debate that 10.1 only applies to open play. Mostly because that's exactly what it says it is for (per the excerpt of law that you post) and the definitions are clear...
  12. Thread: Arm protect

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    [Tackle] Re: Arm protect

    For padding in authorised areas (i.e. shoulders, shin pads) the reg is no more than 5mm when compressed and with no rigid elements. For any other padding (such as this) the reg is no more than 5mm...
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    Re: TWOL - who is part of the tackle?

    I agree with what seems to be the consensus here i.e. that the ball is out. So why bother joining a thread that is resolved?

    Because I want to opine on what I think is a red herring about whether...
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    Re: Collapsing Rucks

    I think that it's potentially illegal under 15.16b, but it's possible to execute legally.

    Illegal when it's (e.g.) a lift with a twist and a collapse onto the ruck.

    Legal when the lift...
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    [Tackle] Re: ‘Through the gate’

    They're drawn to illustrate what anyone who talks about The Gate is talking about (in my coaching experience at least). I think we all agree that they aren't defined in Law. My point is that if you...
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    [Tackle] Re: ‘Through the gate’

    Is this image helpful? Clear offside lines either side of a ruck (or tackle). 5 positions from which a player might join. All of which would be moving from the direction of their own goal line. But E...
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    [Tackle] Re: ‘Through the gate’

    I don't think that there's reason for confusion here. Continue to ref with that picture of the gate in your head. It just isn't spelled out becuase of the 'simplification' of the language for 2018. ...
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    [Tackle] Re: Offside line at a tackle

    Yes, great suggestion. It would also create a discipline of the posts actually being answers to the question in hand!
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    Re: Are TMOs Ruining Things

    It seems to be missing from Android version too
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    Re: Are TMOs Ruining Things

    So what is anyone on this thread going to do in their next game, when there is TWOL, and the 9 picks the ball up but doesn't move away / pass / kick? I'm--to be very clear--not being serious about...
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    Re: Are TMOs Ruining Things

    I don't see that it meets the definition of a ruck -- no England players engaged so it fails the 'at least one player from each team' test. So tackle with offside lines IMO
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    Re: Are TMOs Ruining Things

    I don't think that the gate is specifically defined in the laws but is implied by the definition of the offside lines, and seems well understood by most players and coaches.
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    Re: Are TMOs Ruining Things

    Having reviewed the video of the Courtney Lawes charge again (several times!) I have shifted position from a "fair call" to thinking it was harsh (and am saying this whilst recognising first that...
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    Re: Are TMOs Ruining Things

    I don't think this should be seen as contentious or strange: the picture is clear and this is consistent with the ball carrier and tackler on the ground being used to define the 'gate' (if we are...
  25. [In-goal] Re: Defender driven back into his own in-goal grounds the ball..

    Amen to that. Thanks Phil for the summary. Whilst I appreciate that there isn't always consensus, when it can be reached and concisely articulated as you've done, it is a great help.
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