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  1. [In-goal] Re: Defender passes ball into own in-goal. Ball kicked dead by attacker.

    Well bugger me with a pitchfork! That's a pretty big omission!
  2. [In-goal] Re: Defender passes ball into own in-goal. Ball kicked dead by attacker.

    Definite scrum 5. How the ball was made dead doesn't matter, only who put it into in goal.
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    Re: Pro 14 Ref chief speaks to Wales on line

    To be honest I think overall standards are the problem and pointing to nationalities, and trying to get 'neutral' refs is a distraction that won't help the problem - and as Shelflife says, could even...
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    Know the tournament laws

    An interesting incident here. Neither the referee or the players knowing what would happen in the event of a draw!
    So make sure you know the rules of the competition you're reffing.

    Could have...
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    Re: Welsh cup semi final - fend with the forearm

    Because them's the rules! The BC is allowed to make contact with a would be tackler above the shoulder and can lead with the shoulder and we wouldn't blink at it.
    But I do see a point with the...
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    Re: NO on forward pasess

    And I fully expect that if there are any such instances the BC will throw the ball in the direction he’s running - in a way that would be an obvious forward pass if he were running in the opposite...
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    Re: NO on forward pasess

    This would necessitate him throwing the ball forward.

    Were it a short pass you might get away with it, but the ball is always going to travel forward relative to the thrower.
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    Re: NO on forward pasess

    Only if carrying a coconut!

    Edit: oops - missed the 'unladen'
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    Re: NO on forward pasess

    Oh how about:

    Winger and fullback both running back to field a kick, running at the same speed and the winger is 5m closer to his own DBL than the fullback.
    With both players still running at...
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    Re: NO on forward pasess

    The BC is running back towards his own DBL at 10 m/s, throws the ball backwards (relative to himself, i.e. towards his opponents DBL) at 5 m/s (also relative to himself).

    The ball travels...
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    Re: NO on forward pasess

    Really? That's not my understanding. I thought a throw forward was simply relative to the thrower. The situation you describe (which, TBF, I don't think I've ever seen) sounds like that.
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    [In-goal] Re: Knock-on into in-goal

    Sorry, I was referring to an attacking knock on in in goal. Agreed that the situation you describe is (or rather was) obviously covered in law.
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    [In-goal] Re: Knock-on into in-goal

    The 'mullered in the scrum' post brings to mind a recent thread about teams asking to play, or not play, advantage.

    If a captain came up to you during the game and said "ref, we're getting...
  14. Thread: No Advantage

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    [6N] Re: No Advantage

    TBF, I didn't think this was great from the ref. It did go on for a long time and, IMO, he should have gone back for the penalty much earlier - as soon as they're getting slow ball with the defence...
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    [Law] Re: Application of Laws

    Maybe the game is attractive because they enforce the laws properly!
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    [In-goal] Re: Knock-on into in-goal

    But only if they fail to score without infringing! Fail to score by knocking on and it's a 5m scrum.
  17. Thread: No Advantage

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    [6N] No Advantage

    A nice illustration of what constitutes advantage from the weekend:

    Watching the Scotland-Wales game in a pub with several Welshmen.

    In the second half Scotland had a long penalty advantage...
  18. Thread: Referee Rankings

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    [RWC] Re: Referee Rankings

    TBF, he had the worst showing last year, too, for IRE-WAL
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    Re: NO on forward pasess

    At least he didn't say "try line"!

    Personally I never liked the hands thing. It's a useful thing to look at, but shouldn't be the basis for the law.

    I remember one game (though can't remember...
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    [Law] Re: What would you do next?

    A clear whistle, then when that doesn't stop things stand well out of the way with my notebook and pencil out.
  21. Thread: SCO-WAL breakdown

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    Re: SCO-WAL breakdown

    I agree with the order of infringements, but disagree with the approach. If you let this sort of thing go because the team who infringed first didn't get the ball then it'll happen at every...
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    [Law] Re: When is a knock-on not a knock on

    I can see how the laws, as currently written, allow for both.

    It's always been a knock on if you lose possession forward and don't regather it, but since the change to being in possession if...
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    Re: IRE-FRA - double movement?

    Yeah, by the letter of the law I think you're right, but I'm not sure if it's really in the spirit.

    I pointed it out in the pub and nobody else knew what I was talking about, so I suspect that...
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    [Law] Re: Player goes to ground. Can you award a try ?

    Probably, yeah. I'd have to see the incident, but from the sounds of it I doubt I'd see anything C&O enough to blow up for - neither a penalty nor a scrum.

    But where would we be if we didn't...
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    [Law] Re: Player goes to ground. Can you award a try ?

    As I said, I don't think a strict definition is very useful and it'd have to be done on a case by case basis.

    A player looking the other way with his arms by his sides while the ball bounces off...
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