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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jun/27/with-israel-folau-the-church-demands-a-kind-of-free-speech-that-keeps-gays-in-the-firing-line
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    Re: retaken conversion

    ummm http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?21516-retaken-conversion&p=360271&viewfull=1#post360271
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    Re: retaken conversion

    I note that Rugby Australia said : we're not sure what answer WR would give to this, so we can't answer your question and will have to refer it to them

    Rugby Australia didn't say "Only a...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    In the UK the main breaks are
    .. passing on assets to eachother free of inheritance tax
    .. pension sharing
    .. fair splitting of assets on separation

    If we didn't have those then a lot of...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Did you know only 28 countries allow single sex partnerships.
    And not all of those allow marriage (they have some type of equivalent)

    I would bet that , globally, a great majority of the...
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    Re: retaken conversion

    I hope that
    1 they will say you can change
    2 in the 2020 Law Book they will change the Law to say "the kick is retaken"
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    Re: retaken conversion

    If you are saying that this is a piece of Law that is (or should be) widely ignored , then I am in agreement.
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    Re: retaken conversion

    Well perhaps we can both agree with OB that that is the 'surfacr meaning' of the text as written ?
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    Re: retaken conversion

    I think it's because the obvious meaning, the natural meaning (or surface meaning as OB called it) leads to an unwelcome result . Which is exactly why everyone wants to ignore it
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    Re: retaken conversion

    Which Law are you talking about ?
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    Re: Next season's trials..

    So what does this mean ?

    Delaying the movement of the ruck defensive line: reduce defensive line speed

    Does it mean enforcing existing Law .. or something new ?
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    Re: retaken conversion

    Sanction: If the kick is unsuccessful, the kicker retakes the conversion

    It's pretty clear what the Law says

    If 'the kicker' meant the same thing as 'any kicker' (as you claim) then Rugby...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    And here is a fun poll .. opinions are very divided

    https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/poll-tell-us-where-you-stand-on-israel-folau/news-story/95f75461fbb7bae32c41aefbe042e2f0
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Quite an interesting article her e

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12244086
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    Next season's trials..

    What's coming round the corner ..

    https://www.world.rugby/news/432632?lang=en

    Anyone know what these two are ? Are they to enforce the existing Law ... Or a change ?

    Off feet at the...
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    Re: retaken conversion

    Excellent.

    For all the reasons people give in this thread the Law should be that you can change the kicker.

    Unfortunately the way the Law written is that you can't

    A clarification is a...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Really? Everything he does strikes me as motivated .. or perhaps justified .. by a (mistaken) belief in a higher power .
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    1.5m now ...
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    Re: retaken conversion

    I do think they should change the Law, though . I would like to see it that if there is still time on the clock when the try is scored then we have a restart

    Alternatively we could stop the watch...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    a million now.

    Up 200k in two hours !

    Seems like getting booted off GoFundMe was a bit of good news for him .
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    I don't think IF lost his job for campaigning against gay marriage, which is a mainstream opinion in Australia
    - a third of Australians voted against it
    - 70% of Australians profess a religion ...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    800k in a day !
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Here he goes again
    https://www.acl.org.au/donate_izzy
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    whatever. - in my view GoFundMe should be free to decline someone on the platform if they don't want them, regardless of what's in the T&C, so it's kind of moot.

    and, again, the clash of values is...
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    Re: retaken conversion

    the way they wrote the Laws, he's entitled to his 30s though. You can't take them away from him, and you can't cheat with the clock - you're the ref, you have to be straifght
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