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  1. Thread: Knock on ?

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    Re: Knock on ?

    as always two questions here

    1 you are the ref and an identical incident happens in your grassroots game, what's the call ? I am sure we all agree (?) it's a KO

    2 you are the TMO for this...
  2. Thread: Knock on ?

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    Re: Knock on ?

    I also think it's a KO
    But I am unsettled that the elite officials on the day awarded a try
  3. [QUESTION] Re: How do I "ignore" a thread so it doesnt even show in a forum list of threads?

    mods should curate threads away, it's what they are for.
    It's like the way we ref, spotting potential trouble and extinguishing it before it's a problem
  4. Thread: the Chiefs

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    Now, I thought you said the Crusaders had lost any association with the , well, the crusaders ?
  5. Thread: Knock on ?

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    Knock on ?

    What do we think
    https://www.facebook.com/797871967023499/posts/2144434575700558/
  6. Thread: the Chiefs

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    I read you




    even though it's a real racist insult, you can't quite bring yourself to condemn it as a team name, without reservation.
  7. Thread: the Chiefs

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    so your understandng of the word is ..



    but, still, you are unable to wholly commit to it being unacceptable as a team name
  8. Thread: the Chiefs

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    possible exception?
    when it is a "real racist insult"?

    So you are able to scan through various names and personalky determine which ones are "real" racist insults , and which ones are imagined ...
  9. Thread: the Chiefs

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    Dickie - these are pretty funny right

    https://theculturetrip.com/pacific/australia/articles/12-stereotypes-every-australian-hates/
  10. Thread: the Chiefs

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    I thought this was good
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EefZSEUXkAEOC-I?format=jpg&name=small

    note it's from 2002 ! So anticipates the Offical Chief's feckless statement last week, by almost twenty...
  11. Thread: the Chiefs

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    I reckon every single team with a dodgy name is feeling the pressure by now ....
  12. Thread: the Chiefs

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    I don't really get it, it's like "if we change this offensive name, then we'll have to change all the other offensive names" (well, yes) "and then we'll have to change all the inoffensive names"...
  13. Thread: the Chiefs

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    and so they do :pepper:
  14. Thread: the Chiefs

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    I guess then thw question is how similar do we think these two imageries are ?

    1 - Crusaders (before)

    4036

    2 - Crusaders (after)
    ...
  15. Thread: the Chiefs

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    that's what I was interested in -- what was the origin ? It seemed unlikely to me that it referred to native americans (Exeter being in Devon and whatnot) .

    It's easier for clubs to hang on...
  16. Thread: the Chiefs

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    obviously amongst muslims (same as non-musliims) there are a wide range of nuanced opinions. I really don't see the point of everyone trying to find a muslim person in line with our own particualr...
  17. Thread: the Chiefs

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    Back to the Chiefs anyone seen any details about the claim that the name was in use in the 1900s ?
  18. Thread: the Chiefs

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    This is the "I have black friends" defence

    Of course opinions differ. You have found an NZ Somali quoted as saying it's ok and think that proves you right, but other muslims will have a different...
  19. Thread: the Chiefs

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    Tenuous ? It seems to be impossible for them to give up .. see #232
  20. Thread: the Chiefs

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    swot :)
  21. Thread: the Chiefs

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    800 years on, I reckon it's offensive in the 21st century to be glorifying them.
  22. Thread: the Chiefs

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    that's what they have done ?? So they are STILL dressed like mediaeval religiously motivated aggressors .. but with different flags!

    that doesn't cut it!

    hardly dropped at all - imagery that...
  23. Thread: the Chiefs

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    well, " jihadis " would not be a good name for a sports team, regardless of the imagery used.
    Neither (IMO) is 'crusaders' . Let's face it - few would choose that name nowadays
  24. Thread: the Chiefs

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    Re: the Chiefs

    the fans do a long oooww chant ... waving imaginary or inflatable tomahawks.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNxYm0Cx6D0

    classy eh? :)
  25. Thread: the Chiefs

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    perhaps they'll continue to do the tomahawk sound .... but a little quieter :)
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