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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Nah, the Russian IRA bots are easy to spot if you have the nous and a reasonable knowledge of US History and politics. They can sling from a bunch a pre-programmed insults and comments but they can't...
  2. [Tackle] Re: Wales v All Blacks U20 - how is this not a red card?

    No, I'm not, and that isn;t what happened

    Red 15 did not lower himself by bending his knees as much as he lowers his torso and bends forward.

    Lowering your head into the path of an oncoming...
  3. [Tackle] Re: Wales v All Blacks U20 - how is this not a red card?

    Agree with Zebra.

    Black 21 is already head down/arms out preparing for the tackle - a split second later, Red 15 ducks as Black 21 wraps what he expects to be the upper body of Red 15, except -...
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    [Tackle] Re: Brumbies vs Reds YC

    Listen to the AR beginning at 2:07 on the YT timer; it explains the decision which for me, is the correct one.

    Over here, we call that a "cheap shot"!
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Hard cases make bad law, and if Folau wins this, it will be really bad for everyone; Pandora's Box will be opened.

    Religious speech in Australia will be granted some kind of special protected...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    No they cannot, but they CAN be barred from making public comments disparaging other people on the basis of race, colour, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation etc. That those comments may be...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    "Rhetoric such as that which Folau is spreading is the foundation of prejudice towards homosexuals and the LGBT+ community in modern society. It is archaic views about the way the world should be,...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    I think you missed the point, which was, that if you are going to take someone on, its best to know what they are about.

    I am a regular on a skeptic's forum where my main two sets of opponents are...
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    Re: Inclusiveness in rugby / Paddy Jackson

    I would be, but if you replaced "global" with "USA" then I wouldn't be so sure...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    I saw what you did there!
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Well, I'm not a theologian, I am an atheist, and a follower of the teachings of Sun Tzu, particularly The Art Of War, Chapter 3:18
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    I would argue that it does. Everything in an employment contract is part of the relationship with the employer.

    Lets say I'm an Australian rugby player, and I have a contract with Rugby Australia....
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Well he is going to be in some trouble, because there is nothing whatsoever in the bible which matches what he posted, and not even anything saying that homosexuals, liars and drunks are destined for...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Yep, all good

    1. You have a condition in your contract

    2. The employee violated that condition

    This is a rightful dismissal, so long as the the contract clause was legal. It may not be...
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    Re: Inclusiveness in rugby / Paddy Jackson

    But they are not deciding that. They are deciding that they do not want to be associated with the particular behviour of certain inviduals in the game. The rugby club is perfectly within their rights...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    For those among us who believe that the right to express one's religious views should trump one's responsibility to follow one's employers rules of emplyment, tell us all what your thoughts are about...
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    Re: Inclusiveness in rugby / Paddy Jackson

    Remember the Golden Rule... those who provide the gold, make the rules.
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    Re: Inclusiveness in rugby / Paddy Jackson

    Firstly... not guilty does not mean you are innocent, it means the charges against you couldn't meet the very high threshold of beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The peripheral bad stuff in Jackson and...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?21436-Nigel-Owens-on-inclusive-rugby&p=359857&viewfull=1#post359857
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    I linked one earlier for you, you ignored it (as usual).



    Would it surprise you to learn that I was fan of The Caped Crusader (Batman) before I ever heard of "The Crusades". I was a Batman fan...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Which is why I am in favour of ditching the imagery, keeping the name and associating it with something.

    How hard can it be?
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    And I'll bet they wouldn't if it was done properly.



    Why does the name have to be associated with medieval terrorism?

    Let me answer that for you... IT DOESN'T. It already has another...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    I signed it... does that count?



    They might listen to their bottom line, if ticket sales drop off and sponsors put the pressure on. I know of at least one sponsor who says he'll quit if they...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    ...FTFY


    And it won't if the fans have anything to say

    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/politics-central/head-to-head-should-crusaders-change-their-name-despite-strong-opposition/

    76% oppose...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Why do you thiik they should change the name?
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