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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    I agree Ian, which is why I think ultimately he will lose, or will else win but with very narrow terms attached to stop what you're worried about.

    if I were a betting man - and I'm not, unless I'm...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    You make a good point.
    Usually, if you sign a contract, without being under duress, the terms are considered binding.

    However, the needle may be turning slightly as to the reasonableness of the...
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    Re: Inclusiveness in rugby / Paddy Jackson

    If you sup with the devil, make sure it's with a long spoon.

    if you're happy to take all their money, you have to expect that they will have views that they expect to be respected. And if I'm...
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    Re: Inclusiveness in rugby / Paddy Jackson

    Diageo are the second sponsors.

    They are well within their rights.
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Ah yes. The way to ensure that rugby is diverse and inclusive. Are there many Asian minority kids playing rugby in England?
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    You're being disingenuous Ian.
    Of course the current Crusaders are associated with the Crusades - that's what all the imagery is about. If they ahd been about any of the links that you posted, they...
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    [Scrum] Re: Uncontested scrums

    Pitches deteriorate. What seemed great prior to kick off can after a couple of scrums not be.
    Among stiff competition, this could be the single worst post I've seen from a referee.
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    So, religious need trumps medical need. OK. Got it. (pun unintended)

    I don't take particular offence to the Crusaders because each side was full of atrocities. But a sensitive team in the modern...
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    [Scrum] Re: Uncontested scrums

    Without knowing more information, I wouldn't second guess the referee. He's a lot closer to it than I am.
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/05/hhs-trump-religious-freedom/588697/

    This. It's an Executive Rule. How, exactly, do you suggest one fight against it?
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    Crock. Of. Shit.

    Christians, generally, in the US are afforded a great deal of freedom. To the extent that it is now being proposed that medical practitioners get the right to deny treatment based...
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    Re: Quick Line out (not quick throw in)

    No. Just...no.
    The lineout law makes that clear.

    They want a dummy hooker. But a lineout can proceed without one, subject to sanction.
    They want numbers to match (or defenders be less). But the...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    He's making a stand. Either for money, or principle, or both. My bet is the former as I'm not what other skills he has that would pay him enough.

    Enough is enough, frankly. Bigotry has no place in...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    I was going off this:
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2019/06/nrl-slams-door-on-israel-folau-s-hopes-of-nrl-comeback.html
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    We already know their stance - they've said he isn't welcome.
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    Re: Quick Line out (not quick throw in)

    This is covered in Law 18.14:
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    Re: Quick Line out (not quick throw in)

    This.
    The law is specific that two players from each team is all that is required to form a lineout.

    The requirement for the dummy hooker isn't a prerequisite for a lineout to form or start, it's...
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    Re: Quick Line out (not quick throw in)

    Or: Managing a team who are acting compliance with the law.

    If you have a law reference for holding it, then that's what we need. A "surprise" lineout that complies with law is their right; if the...
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    Re: Premiership final

    Not at all. Realistic.
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    Re: Why no red card?

    I think you'll find based on previous red cards that standing your ground is not, in fact, a valid defence.
    I disagree, but that's what red cards have been handed out for.
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    Re: Quick Line out (not quick throw in)

    Assuming all Black are compliant?

    Play on . Stop crying.

    And then maybe have a quick chat with the captain to explain what just happened.
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    Re: Why no red card?

    That's not the only thing that is alien.
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    Re: Why no red card?

    I'm not so sure.
    If Black had pushed Kearney at the point of jumping, or in his jump, I'd agree.

    But Kearney was unimpeded at the point of jumping, and he had time enough to pull out when it was...
  24. Re: Sanctioning Tacklers who are a risk to themselves

    The attacking team don't need any more time, per the article.

    The game is so skewed to attacking teams it's a joke.
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    Re: Why no red card?

    NO says yellow, so clearly not a fair challenge or viable contest.
    Have a look at Hogg's head - simultaneously makes contact with the ground as his shoulder. Head impact? Red.
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