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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    Apologies, I meant to say pos YC for me in that comment. The review would be to confirm if there was head contact. As such there was not. If there was Head contact, I'd def go with the YC but as...
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    [Law] Re: When to make the mark

    I would imagine that you would need to wait till the players have left the field. As depending on where the penalty is it could be material. And to be consistent, I'd apply that wherever the penalty...
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    [Golden Oldies] Restart after a score

    https://youtu.be/uHnvTiGA7kI


    My question relates to the scenario at 2:45.

    Should this not have been a restart as the non-kicking team weren't on or behind their 10m line? Is the purpose of...
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    I really don't know how your not seeing it thb?? I don't think there's an obstruction as the timing is acceptable for a legal tackle to be completed. Both players are moving yes, however KB isn't...
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    Exactly what I've said.
  6. Thread: Jackaling

    by Arabcheif
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    [Ruck] Re: Jackaling

    Ah that one. I personally thought it was harsh at the time. I think, and i can only guess, the BC's support players made contact with him and formed a ruck. Then they slid forward and beyond the ruck...
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    I'm just trying to understand here. At no point have I said he could avoided the collision. I'm not suggesting he could've managed to get out of the road. I'm also not suggesting that he could've...
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    Is there a law ref for that? squint feeds a generally accepted but still against the laws.
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    So he not turned round ind is running after the ball. He turned side on. He then allowed his momentum to go into the player. Now if he'd wrapped like a tackle, or had turned all the way round and was...
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    I don't think there was contact to the head. just a no-arms charge with the shoulder. Intent in this is irrelevant. We wouldn't not penalise a high tackle for example because it wasn't meant. High...
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    Contact was made with the shoulder, with the arm in the sling position. This is the definition of a shoulder charge in the decision making matrix. I'm not sure why you seem to not be getting this....
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    Right, so again. Please answer my question. Are you guys are OK with tacklers leading with the shoulder and not wrapping? As this is what you seem to be saying.

    If he was facing away for B13, B13...
  13. Thread: Scrum PK

    by Arabcheif
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    [Scrum] Re: Scrum PK

    I can't see their feet. Ref and the Openside Flanker are in the way. Unless you've seen a different angle? Not sure how you can tell 19.12.c is applicable. I'm inclined to reset the scrum. As being...
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    The implication from when you said that Beale is not allowed to tackle b13 as soon as he kicks. Suggests that you'd view this as a late tackle. and sanction it as such. I'd see it as a defender who...
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    Seriously? You'd give a pen for a late but legal tackle in this scenario but be ok with this shoulder charge?
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    You guys must have lots of injuries in you matches if you allow that. His arm is in the sling position. All he turns and leads with his shoulder. This seems to be the only time that you gents are...
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    So if the BC still had the ball in hands it would be ok too? No, I'm considering a YC every time. Dependent on the level of danger. This may not peak to a YC but others that look similar may.
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    @Balones - but what about the arm tucked into the sling position. This is clearly a tackle without a wrap. If he'd had his arms our to charge the kick or wrapped his arms round like in a tackle, then...
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    I was hoping to see it in the highlights too. I haven't seen that incident.
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    Nah my friend, the arm is tucked into the "Sling" position. clear shoulder charge. Only thing is no head contact.Of his arm was out in a tackling position then, yeah, i'd agree nothing in it. But the...
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    [Golden Oldies] Re: Nigel Owens on inclusive rugby.

    @Cross ref, I've not got a subscription to that website. Whats the case and i'll google it.
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    Ah I see, for me def no arms tackle/shoulder charge. So yeah, YC for me. Didn't see any obvious head contact. Shoulder to check (above armpit height). So I'd play the advantage if i decided no try,...
  23. Thread: Jackaling

    by Arabcheif
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    [Ruck] Re: Jackaling

    Ok it may not be a legalistic "binding." this refers to binding to players in the same team as you in a ruck or to the opp front rows in a scrum. But it's a common language thing the grabbing a...
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    [INTERNATIONAL] Re: Kurtley beale - lucky to stay on the field?

    Do you have a link to a Video for those of us that haven't seen it.
  25. Thread: Jackaling

    by Arabcheif
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    [Ruck] Re: Jackaling

    No, because you are still subject to Dangerous Play laws. The lawbook allows you to clear out a Jackler as long as it isn't dangerous.


    Where do you go from here? Well, if you make a reckless...
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