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    Default Re: Weird In-Goal Play Question

    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    Is "jackler" in the laws? Or "tackle zone"?
    Or "fetcher", "gate", "clean-out", "ankle-tap", "forward pass", "truck and trailer", "feed", "blindside", "openside", "gain line", "breakdown", "grubber kick", "wipers kick", "offload" and "turnover".


    NONE of these commonly used rugby terms are listed or defined in the Laws of the Game, but it doesn't stop any of us from knowing what they mean and using them when we watch, play or referee the game.
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    Hi All,

    Well first I would like to preface this by saying I didn't expect so much activity and replies to so quickly to my question. Thank you for all your input. Secondly, I am just used to the common American terminology from where I've been playing rugby. Though I do try to speak and convey my thoughts in the most proper way I can, so I will try to keep in mind to use "in-goal" instead of "try zone". Thirdly, I could not prevent myself from glancing (which led into reading) what you posted Dixie. I do believe I comprehended what further information you were providing us with, (I would say I'm decently knowledgeable of the game from a player standpoint at least.) Thank you for this extra information (I learned something new.) Finally, I was pretty sure it would result in a 22DO, but when I saw it occur the referee awarded a 5M scrum to the attacking team A. I would say charge downs have always been a weird thing to wrap my head around personally, in different situations, and I just always wanted to confirm what should have resulted from the scenario I mentioned earlier. Finally, I would like to state that I don't think any of you are nutters (in regards to what Dickie E said.) I love rugby, and I'm glad for all your responses.

    Thank You again,
    -Jon DeAgro

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    We're NOT nutters?

    How disappointing to learn that after all this time on this (wholly excellent!) forum/mutual support group!

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    Default Re: Weird In-Goal Play Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    If you are the OP, don't read this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    Why?

    Its 100% correct, and as ST says, a referees do get this wrong. Why would the OP (an inexperienced referee) not want to get the Law right?

    Start as you mean to go on!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    IMO, it is far more important to give the OP (an inexperienced referee asking a legitimate question) some good information and answers to HIS QUESTION, rather than side-track the thread with nitpicking irrelevancies.
    I see you managed to work out the answer to your own question then! Well done.
    Don't feed the pedant!

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    Default Re: Weird In-Goal Play Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    I see you managed to work out the answer to your own question then! Well done.

    Bollocks to you mate!! You have misrepresented what I said.

    You think you were being clever, but what you were being was a dickhead!!

    What I said was STILL related to his in-goal question, bitching about incorrect terminology was the side-track!
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    Default Re: Weird In-Goal Play Question

    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    Punt is defined in the Laws. Umpire and Fair Catch were rugby terms in the 19th century, and the latter survived up to 1999. "Double movement" misleads a lot of people and is therefore bad. "Let him up" is a basic law error.

    Why the need to exaggerate? Yes it is theoretically better to avoid possible confusion by using the terms in the Laws, but in reality does anybody do that all the time? Is "jackler" in the laws? Or "tackle zone"?
    Terms like jackler, tackle zone etc are in numerous IRB and RFU (and I suspect many other Home Union) memos, documents, coach / referee training materials, etc.

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    Default Re: Weird In-Goal Play Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    Or "fetcher",
    Isn't that a chap who extracts ***** out of another chap's ******?

    I've got a picture somewhere ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    Isn't that a chap who extracts ***** out of another chap's ******?

    I've got a picture somewhere ....
    Please collect your coat on the way out.DickieE.jpg
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    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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    Default Re: Weird In-Goal Play Question

    Hey,

    Also, I was just wondering when / how does my account become off the new member status so I can access other forum topics?

    Thanks,
    -Jon DeAgro

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    Default Re: Weird In-Goal Play Question

    I believe it's once you get past 10 posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by jdeagro View Post
    Hey,

    Also, I was just wondering when / how does my account become off the new member status so I can access other forum topics?

    Thanks,
    -Jon DeAgro

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