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    Default Re: Handling in a Ruck?

    Anyone want to suggest that there may have been a knock-on in there as the first infringement? Granted it is difficult to confirm from camera angle even though it looks like Glen Jackson has a good view of it.
    When you are dead, you don't know that you are dead. It is difficult only for the others.
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    Default Re: Handling in a Ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fat View Post
    Perhaps I should have gone into more detail.
    I posted the extract from Clarification 2-2011 to show that when the ball is on the ground and there are still players on their feet and bound over it, we transition from maul to ruck. The reference to a collapsed maul was specific to the question asked by the ARU back in 2011 and not the OP of this thread.
    Ah ok - relevance makes a lot more sense now. I had only seen that extract from it - should've done my homework and read the whole thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by viper492 View Post
    Ah ok - relevance makes a lot more sense now. I had only seen that extract from it - should've done my homework and read the whole thing!
    Caution, its been known for a clarification to 'appear' relevant & current, when in fact they've been overridden & a contrary law position now exists. IRB dont always indicate outdated clarifications !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browner View Post
    Caution, its been known for a clarification to 'appear' relevant & current, when in fact they've been overridden & a contrary law position now exists. IRB dont always indicate outdated clarifications !
    And also read every single thing ever made that could be pertaining to it
    Last edited by viper492; 05-08-14 at 13:08.

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    Default Re: Handling in a Ruck?

    If you gave a PK for that there would be 30 very confused players.

    I'm sure there was a knock on.........

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    Default Re: Handling in a Ruck?

    I'll concur with the commentator on this one:

    "it was, as you say, sloppy"

    Scrum the right outcome in my humble wee one.

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    Default Re: Handling in a Ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toby Warren View Post
    If you gave a PK for that there would be 30 very confused players.
    I have given a penalty for just that sort of offence (ignoring the KO which must have come first) and there were indeed a number of confused players, but not for the reasons you might have thought.
    Me 'Peep'-"penalty - handling in the ruck"
    Penalised skipper - "but I thought you had to have bodies on the ground off their feet for a ruck!

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