View Poll Results: Should ref allow play to continue?

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  • Yes. Play recommences as soon as Blue takes the restart. Law is silent on fresh ball

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  • No. Bring players back as Blue has taken an unfair advantage using a new ball

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    Default Quick restart

    Red are awarded a penalty on Blue 22 and elect to take shot at goal. Kick is successful and as referee awards the score a ball boy runs to the middle of the halfway with a fresh ball ready for the restart.

    As Red are retiring to their half and still out of position the Blue team rush to the halfway and take a quick restart with the fresh ball.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Quick restart

    No, Law 2.6

    "Spare balls may be available during a match, but a team must not gain or attempt to gain an unfair advantage by using them or changing them."

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    Default Re: Quick restart

    Quote Originally Posted by TigerCraig View Post
    No, Law 2.6

    "Spare balls may be available during a match, but a team must not gain or attempt to gain an unfair advantage by using them or changing them."
    Exactly what he just said
    Rule #1: If the law doesn't forbid it, it's allowed.
    Rule #2: If it ain't in the Law Book, don't make it up.

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    Default Re: Quick restart

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    Red are awarded a penalty on Blue 22 and elect to take shot at goal. Kick is successful and as referee awards the score a ball boy runs to the middle of the halfway with a fresh ball ready for the restart.

    As Red are retiring to their half and still out of position the Blue team rush to the halfway and take a quick restart with the fresh ball.
    I agree, that scenario is obviously illegal.

    However the problem does seem to imply that Blue could use the original ball to restart before Red were ready. That proposition has been discussed in the past with no agreement being reached.
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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    Default Re: Quick restart

    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post

    However the problem does seem to imply that Blue could use the original ball to restart before Red were ready. That proposition has been discussed in the past with no agreement being reached.
    Provided same ball is used AND considering that the clock is still running, why shouldn't the team wishing to get on with the game be prevented from doing so by the procrastinations of the other?..... This ideology seems to dovetail with all other QTI, QTP, QFK thinking, I think i'd let them.

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    Default Re: Quick restart

    Quote Originally Posted by Browner View Post
    Provided same ball is used AND considering that the clock is still running, why shouldn't the team wishing to get on with the game be prevented from doing so by the procrastinations of the other?..... This ideology seems to dovetail with all other QTI, QTP, QFK thinking, I think i'd let them.
    FTFY.
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    Default Re: Quick restart

    Saw it happen once, in a Scotland/Wales 6N match (well, didn't actually see it since we were 'treated' to numerous pointless shots of celebrations or replays). Scott (IIRC) Hastings caught the ball, sprinted for the middle and took a quick drop. I think it ended in a penalty aginst Wales for something - tackling player without the ball or not releasing the tackled player - not sure, it was a long time ago

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    Default Re: Quick restart

    Which is the home team? Everyone seems to be assuming Blue; it could easily be Red and the club routine for every match and every score. After all, it is the ball boy's moment of glory, delivering the ball to the centre, so there may be no ill intent at all. In the finals matches at the National Schools Sevens, a fresh ball is placed in the middle after every try by the organiser's ball boys. The referee has to make sure that he/she gets ready in good time!
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    FTFY.
    !!! Damn that predictive text thingumy

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    Default Re: Quick restart

    Quote Originally Posted by Browner View Post
    Provided same ball is used AND considering that the clock is still running, why shouldn't the team wishing to get on with the game be prevented from doing so by the procrastinations of the other?..... This ideology seems to dovetail with all other QTI, QTP, QFK thinking, I think i'd let them.
    Agree ... as long as it is same ball.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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