View Poll Results: Should ref allow play to continue?

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  • Yes. Play recommences as soon as Blue takes the restart. Law is silent on fresh ball

    10 16.95%
  • No. Bring players back as Blue has taken an unfair advantage using a new ball

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    Default Re: Quick restart

    Quote Originally Posted by Pegleg View Post
    With the original ball fine not with a new one. The question is abut using a different ball and the law covers it nicely.
    If a different ball is used, there is no need for discussion. The law clearly covers the point.

    The problem we are discussing now arises because Law 13 is defective. It is important because referees disagree, though fortunately it is a rare situation.
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
    The Referee by John Dryden

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    Default Re: Quick restart

    RL protocol is that the restart may be taken once all officials are in position. This works fine when you have a team of 3, but otherwise, a little common sense is required! If you have a To3 and the TJs have managed to run back and get into position, I'd say you should allow the restart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    If a different ball is used, there is no need for discussion. The law clearly covers the point.

    The problem we are discussing now arises because Law 13 is defective. It is important because referees disagree, though fortunately it is a rare situation.
    I do apologise for answering the Opening poster's question.

    However, tao explain why I say the following in answer to the follow up point:
    Quote Originally Posted by Pegleg
    If I have time to do my score card get back to the middle etc then I'd expect both sides to be ready pretty soon.
    If I am not ready the side runs the risk of "scoring" but I am not in a position to see the score. Do I award a try where I have doubt over the grounding?

    I'm not going to dawdle back. If I'm there and ready I'd expect both sides to be and it is play on.

    I've never had the problem in over 10 years in the middle. I'll not loose too much sleep over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pegleg View Post
    I've never had the problem in over 10 years in the middle. I'll not loose too much sleep over it.
    I'm surpised at that: I have witnessed this two or three times.

    Having let it go once, I wouldn't do that again.

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    Well I've never found the need to stop a side taking a restart kick in such a scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Having let it go once, I wouldn't do that again.
    What was the problem?
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
    The Referee by John Dryden

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    Quote Originally Posted by OB..:280270
    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Having let it go once, I wouldn't do that again.
    What was the problem?
    In short, blue took it very quickly, I let them, most of red didn't even compete , blue scored, red were cross, I felt like a prat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    In short, blue took it very quickly, I let them, most of red didn't even compete , blue scored, red were cross, I felt like a prat.
    so that I can keep up, did Blue use the original ball or a fresh ball?
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    In short, blue took it very quickly, I let them, most of red didn't even compete , blue scored, red were cross, I felt like a prat.
    I've not witnessed this ever from a restart. Yes, you were a prat for a minute. Everybody makes mistakes. This particular mistake was not primarily yours, working on the assumption that you had reason to believe that blue WERE using the correct ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    In short, blue took it very quickly, I let them, most of red didn't even compete , blue scored, red were cross, I felt like a prat.
    If Blue used a different ball, you we indeed wrong. If they used the same ball, Red were wrong (IMHO).
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
    The Referee by John Dryden

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