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    Default Scrum half engagement seqence

    Is it ok for refs to say to the scrummie "Yes nine", or must it only be a visual signal? Or does it vary from ref to ref.

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    Default Re: Scrum half engagement seqence

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    - this one isn't in the Laws, and there is no consistency in the IRB videos that show the engagement sequence.

    So it's a guidance thing, not a Law thing

    In England the RFU have said that they want signals to be non-verbal and the London Society told us all (in line with RFU guidance I am sure) that we should use tap on the back when on the SH side, and a signal when on the other side. So far as I know every English Society issued the same instructions

    I think the last time we discussed this refs in other couintries said their advice differed, so you might want a Irish response to your quesiton

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    Default Re: Scrum half engagement seqence

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    breako
    - this one isn't in the Laws, and there is no consistency in the IRB videos that show the engagement sequence.

    So it's a guidance thing, not a Law thing

    In England the RFU have said that they want signals to be non-verbal and the London Society told us all (in line with RFU guidance I am sure) that we should use tap on the back when on the SH side, and a signal when on the other side. So far as I know every English Society issued the same instructions

    I think the last time we discussed this refs in other couintries said their advice differed, so you might want a Irish response to your quesiton
    In the USA we do the same as the above, except for U19 we still say Yes9.

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    Default Re: Scrum half engagement seqence

    IRB asked for a non-verbal signal in the main, IIRC

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    Default Re: Scrum half engagement seqence

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    so you might want a Irish response to your quesiton
    Put 3 shovels in front of him and ask him to take his pick?


    Ps in ARU land we say nothing nor touch nothing. (Except some refs watch too much elite level and I against the guidance and tell them or touch them)
    Tell em it's Law 23 and smile

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    Default Re: Scrum half engagement seqence

    Quote Originally Posted by menace View Post
    Ps in ARU land we say nothing nor touch nothing. (Except some refs watch too much elite level and I against the guidance and tell them or touch them)

    So how do you give the SH the signal if you are standing behind him?
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    Default Re: Scrum half engagement seqence

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    So how do you give the SH the signal if you are standing behind him?
    we don't give any signal. SH feeds at his discretion (like in the old days)
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Scrum half engagement seqence

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    we don't give any signal. SH feeds at his discretion (like in the old days)
    We only tell him if he's delaying....like the old days.
    Tell em it's Law 23 and smile

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    Default Re: Scrum half engagement seqence

    In South Africa we were told to use non-verbal signs...either pat on the back or sign if you are on the opposite side of the scrum.

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    Default Re: Scrum half engagement seqence

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    we don't give any signal. SH feeds at his discretion (like in the old days)
    I assume you see no signs of teams devising tricky ways to take advantage?
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