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    Would you PK and/or YC blue 14 for his actions in this video?
    Last edited by Phil E; 09-01-15 at 11:01. Reason: To fix the poll
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    Default Re: Preventing the QT???

    I'm not a Brown fan, he has far too much to say for himself, one of those that seems to think people aren't allowed to tackle him, BUT I have to say well done for not taking a dive when the frenchie "stuck the nut on him" as I'm sure one of our wendyball players would have done!
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    Default Re: Preventing the QT???

    given that danny care got a YC for doing exactly that the season before (2?) ...

    well, Care actually tossed the ball into the crowd, but really what's the difference between hiding the ball behind the back then tossing it to the floor a few metres away?

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    Default Re: Preventing the QT???

    You can't see in teh Video if the QT is actually on.

    I see nothing really wrong with the entire incident up to the point where Brown is bending over to pick up the ball, and he is then pushed by Huget.

    Up until that point Huget has taken the ball into touch, and is slowing down the retrieval by Brown, and Brown is saying let me have the ball. Huget correctly drops the ball, so he can't be PK'ed or YC'ed for that. But the push by Huget actively pushes Brown away from the ball, and prevents him picking it up, and by this point the QT is unlikely to be on. It is also a flash point.

    Card - depends on if the QT was really on. And previous. And...... But highly probably not to card it. And if the players had been "good as pie" up to that point I might even just have a word.

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    Default Re: Preventing the QT???

    what you don't see on this video is that Huget actually makes contact with his head on Brown, it's only a slight contact, but it's there!
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    Default Re: Preventing the QT???

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBFG View Post
    I'm not a Brown fan, he has far too much to say for himself
    Thankfully, his on field performance outweighs that view of his chatter.

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    Default Re: Preventing the QT???

    Quote Originally Posted by FlipFlop View Post
    You can't see in teh Video if the QT is actually on.

    I see nothing really wrong with the entire incident up to the point where Brown is bending over to pick up the ball, and he is then pushed by Huget.

    Up until that point Huget has taken the ball into touch, and is slowing down the retrieval by Brown, and Brown is saying let me have the ball. Huget correctly drops the ball, so he can't be PK'ed or YC'ed for that. But the push by Huget actively pushes Brown away from the ball, and prevents him picking it up, and by this point the QT is unlikely to be on. It is also a flash point.

    Card - depends on if the QT was really on. And previous. And...... But highly probably not to card it. And if the players had been "good as pie" up to that point I might even just have a word.
    Aren't QTIs always 'on' , by definition?

    The thrust of Law is clear, it encourages QTI's and seeks to discourage players preventing them. I cant imagine anyone not thinking that Huget wasn't engaging in QTI prevention activity.


    PS... Why he didn't boot the ball into row Z when he gathered it?, lord alone knows. Would have served him better, but hey ho, would be less interesting for us.



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    Browner - I suspect you are deliberately being obtuse.

    A QTI is always "on" in law. But if all the other England players had stopped playing, and were now starting preparing for the LO, then there is no way that Brown would take a QT. So the immateriality of what happened is reduced.

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    Default Re: Preventing the QT???

    my answer would be PK + can't really see from the video if a YC is merited, to me it does depend on whether Huget was blocking a potentially try scoring opportunity.

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    Default Re: Preventing the QT???

    Quote Originally Posted by FlipFlop View Post

    A QTI is always "on" in law. But if all the other England players had stopped playing, and were now starting preparing for the LO, then there is no way that Brown would take a QT.

    (2) So the immateriality of what happened is reduced.
    Flip Flop - if QTI opportunity is denied, then that is Fact, rather than it being a declination.

    Notwithstanding that, MBs urgency suggests it was on, and most usually the thrower decides based on 'his' assessment of risk v reward.

    PS.....
    2) does this mean .... increased materiality ?
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