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    Default Re: Uisng an AR

    Quote Originally Posted by menace View Post
    But that's his rod for his own back?!

    That is NOT NOs call...FFS it's right in front of the ref and he's looking at the 9 feeding it so he has at least a better look at it than NO.
    I find that is NO not assisting but trying to referee the game! I think that was unprofessional by NO. He knows better and should shut up. All its shown is that the AR thinks the referee is incompetent.
    totally agree. now nige has put doubt in the ref''s head and he may starting thinking about it when he should be managing his own standard.

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    presumably that was broadcast by mistake.

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    I agree. As an AR, I only ever send in a call once and let the ref choose to do what they want with the information I provide. I've ignored calls by ARs before because what I saw was fine in my eyes and with the way I was reffing the game. Had an AR been telling me a call repeatedly, I'd probably have shut my mic off to get them out of my ear.

    I also don't understand how we got the AR mic on the video? Was someone holding a parabolic mic towards NO the whole match to catch whatever he said? In my opinion, it's good to have the ref mic'd so that the people at home can know what's going on and understand the calls. That being said, the AR's are there to assist the ref and what they say shouldn't be broadcast as it could potentially lead to confusion for the viewer if they're expecting the ref to now call everything that they hear.

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    Do we know what the referee's pre-match brief to NO was?
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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    Not even sure it was not straight. The hookers had to strike the ball. The timing was good, and the foot was in teh tunnel when he took the ball.

    Perhaps you could argue the foot was up early, but that is the sort of scrum we really want to be seeing. Hooker takes foot or the ground. Gets benefit of timing, but loses the 8-7 pushing contest.

    Quite rightly the Ref ignores NO. (IMHO)

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    Default Re: Uisng an AR

    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    Do we know what the referee's pre-match brief to NO was?
    I doubt it would be 'hey guys...make sure you repeatedly tell me when the feed is not straight when I'm on the feeding side...I really need that info cause that's clear and obvious'.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlipFlop View Post
    Not even sure it was not straight. The hookers had to strike the ball. The timing was good, and the foot was in teh tunnel when he took the ball.

    Perhaps you could argue the foot was up early, but that is the sort of scrum we really want to be seeing. Hooker takes foot or the ground. Gets benefit of timing, but loses the 8-7 pushing contest.

    Quite rightly the Ref ignores NO. (IMHO)
    I'd say the feed was under the eyes of the LH. But not clearly crooked, I agree.
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    Default Re: Uisng an AR

    Quote Originally Posted by menace View Post
    But that's his rod for his own back?!

    That is NOT NOs call...FFS it's right in front of the ref and he's looking at the 9 feeding it so he has at least a better look at it than NO.
    I find that is NO not assisting but trying to referee the game! I think that was unprofessional by NO. He knows better and should shut up. All its shown is that the AR thinks the referee is incompetent.
    Yes, good refs do not necessarily make good ARs
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fat View Post
    And Nigel only said it 3 times!!!
    I'm OK with that. Once the AR decides something needs to be communicated then make sure it is heard.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismtl View Post
    I also don't understand how we got the AR mic on the video? Was someone holding a parabolic mic towards NO the whole match to catch whatever he said? In my opinion, it's good to have the ref mic'd so that the people at home can know what's going on and understand the calls. That being said, the AR's are there to assist the ref and what they say shouldn't be broadcast as it could potentially lead to confusion for the viewer if they're expecting the ref to now call everything that they hear.
    It varies by broadcaster. Some just have ref mic, others choose to put the AR feed in too. Always safest to assume you're being listened to - your voice is public property at that level.

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    This got a good airing on the social media sites. Bad example by NO IMHO. That was always the refs call and he should never had said anything!

    IF the ref takes up a TH position and the put in is on the AR's side then maybe he can call it, but NO is not even in shot.

    I've voiced before than NO always looks pi$$ed off when he's give an AR role, far from me to say it, but he seems to give the "I'm too good for this role impression"
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