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    Sanzar are investigating a new concept – a so-called “referees bunker” – to be implemented in Vodacom Super Rugby in the near future to try and cut down on television match official decisions that are both controversial and cause an unnecessary delay in the game.

    Sanzar refereeing boss Lyndon Bray confirmed to supersport.com that he was investigating the use of such a system – which has been implemented in Australia’s NRL Rugby League system, whereby the television match official was not at the game. He would rather be in a “bunker” where he would have access to at least nine different angles of play, and able to control which angles to look at if a decision was to be taken. The bunker would be situated off site, and connected via technology, taking away the emotion of fans in front of the TMO box.
    http://www.supersport.com/rugby/supe...te_refs_bunker

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    Default Re: NRL style ref's bunker for Super Rugby?

    MLB is having success with this.

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    Default Re: NRL style ref's bunker for Super Rugby?

    Still not actually implemented in the NRL btw, but a trial showed it more than halved the amount of time spent on video ref decisions.

    Another benefit is not needing such a large pool of TMOs, thus leading to more consistency.

    This is not going to speed up decision making or make it any more accurate if rugby continues the bollocks of having the on-field referee making decisions from the big screen.
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    Default Re: NRL style ref's bunker for Super Rugby?

    Here's a look at the NFL's Replay Command Centre, based in New York

    http://mmqb.si.com/2014/11/11/inside...ommand-center/
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    TV Directors Bias is officially recognised as being a problem

    & TMOs being swayed by the fans in front of their box ( presumably the home team allocate these 'premium seats' to their most vociferous berators ) .
    http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread....hlight=Maximus

    Post #8. Said this ...... "What about the remote TMO with match decisions projected onto a screen with a thumbs up or thumbs down decision , and a coloured lazer indicating the position of any restart , armed guards protecting the gladiatorial players from accessing the decision makers observation tower...
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    . Bertrand Russell - Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.”

    However, there is much about the Replay Command Centre article ( and its practical usage) that makes it a step too far, however the 10% reduction in "replay delay" (22/239s) must be considered to make it worthwhile !
    . Are too many cooks spoiling the broth?


    My mind tries to imagine the future, I'm now wondering who might actually sit on the various 'thrones' of Central decision Review Control/Command when we get them ......

    Bray/Spreadbury/Kaplan/ Watson/Owens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browner View Post

    Bray/Spreadbury/Kaplan/ Watson/Owens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Browner View Post
    & TMOs being swayed by the fans in front of their box ( presumably the home team allocate these 'premium seats' to their most vociferous berators ) .
    The TMO sits in a TV truck in the car park, so how is he swayed by supporters?

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    .“In terms of the Bulls "no try" on the weekend - the first challenge is for the referee to determine which question he is going to ask. This has significant implications on the scope available to the TMO (& referee, who is watching the replays). The first question is "try or no try" - this question is asked when the referee has no strong position on whether the ball has been grounded. The second question is "give me a reason why I cannot award this try" - in this case, the referee has given us all a strong perspective that he believes the ball has been grounded & is checking for any obvious facts that would stop him from awarding it.“The referee asked the first question - now the TMO has to have conclusive evidence that the try has been scored. If he cannot draw a factual conclusion that the ball has been grounded on or over the line, then he cannot recommend a try be awarded.”
    Either way the Bulls were denied a certain try, and a chance of winning the game, and whatever the explanation, is simply not good enough.
    So, referee didn't see the ball grounded , so he asked his TMO - who also couldnt see it thus , and according to Bray that's "simply not good enough"
    Whats not good enough LB? , the decision of these Officials doing their very best , or their view angle , maybe cameras built into the match shirt ?????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    The TMO sits in a TV truck in the car park, so how is he swayed by supporters?
    I vote for....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Lifeson-Peart View Post
    I vote for....

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    cut down on television match official decisions that are ..... controversial
    The bunker would be situated off site ...... taking away the emotion of fans in front of the TMO box.



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