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    Default Re: You can't have two pods

    The lawbook allows peeling at a LO, but we still allow several peelers with impunity.

    Personally, I see nothing wrong with it. Play on for me.

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    Default Re: You can't have two pods

    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    Apart from my standard objection to such a legalistic approach, I would point out that the phrase "a player" does not appear in the extract quoted.
    Are you agreeing or disagreeing that the extract could be ambiguously read as one teammate only lifted? Such as Flying wedge requires teammates not teammate.

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    Default Re: You can't have two pods

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kurt Weaver View Post
    Are you agreeing or disagreeing that the extract could be ambiguously read as one teammate only lifted? Such as Flying wedge requires teammates not teammate.
    I don't see the law as implying just one jumper. The reference is not number specific, and applies to any person who is jumping for the ball. "If a player punches an opponent he must be sent off" - the use of the singular does not limit it to one person. "A player" is anyone who fits the other descriptors.

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    Default Re: You can't have two pods

    The word "player" needs something in front of it, otherwise it reads badly. "Player may lift..." is just bad.

    "A" player means a non specific player or players. if they wanted to restrict it to only one person, I think they would have said that
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    Default Re: You can't have two pods

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    Default Re: You can't have two pods

    I have never heard this theory before, and if I'm honest I hope I don't hear it again.
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    Default Re: You can't have two pods

    I am glad it wasn't just me that thought this was wrong.
    Thanks everyone for confirming my thoughts.

    This is in the public video section so I don't think you have to log in to see it. See the comments under the video.

    http://www.dartfish.tv/Player.aspx?C...c78665m3292014

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    Default Re: You can't have two pods

    I'd be interested in his thinking. Many if not most line outs see more than one player from a side supported / lifted.

    On a second point:

    If it is red's throw and two red pods go up I see he would ping the pod that did not have a realistic chance of taking the throw (the front pod in the video).

    However,

    If it is red's throw and two white pods go up Would ping the pod that did not have a realistic chance of taking the throw ( it would be the front pod in the video) on the basis they coulnot be jumping to take the ball? A bit unfair as since they have no idea where the throw is going.

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    Default Re: You can't have two pods

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    I am glad it wasn't just me that thought this was wrong.
    Thanks everyone for confirming my thoughts.

    This is in the public video section so I don't think you have to log in to see it. See the comments under the video.

    http://www.dartfish.tv/Player.aspx?C...c78665m3292014

    Here is a variation on that play

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwCJ9DAkqNA
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    Default Re: You can't have two pods

    I think it is clear we should allow this, in the proviso both pods go up after the ball is thrown. I am not sure applying a legalistic, literal interpretation of the law helps in this instance (player vs players etc.).

    Pegleg makes a great point about equality, if 2 opposition pods go up would you penalise that? The answer must be no, therefore you cannot realistically penalise the attacking team for the same strategy/'offense'.

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