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    Default Re: Hands past off side line

    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    The definitions of the offside lines may have changed, but the principle still stands surely - that defending players should have their hands either on or behind the offside line.
    Taff in fact the defenders should not have their hands on the ground at all, but if they are touching the ground it should be behind the offside line

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    Default Re: Hands past off side line

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinky View Post
    Taff in fact the defenders should not have their hands on the ground at all, but if they are touching the ground it should be behind the offside line
    I'm going to get pedantic now, but what law stops a player from having their hands on the ground in a defensive, sprinter style start position? Surely we're not saying they're on the ground and out of the game? Even if you do as soon as they lift that hand they are back OK again?

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    Default Re: Hands past off side line

    Quote Originally Posted by Zebra1922 View Post
    I'm going to get pedantic now,
    Since the laws make no attempt to define what constitutes being in front of the offside line, pedantry cannot help.

    Convention is pragmatic and dictates that if you are stationary, what matters is the part(s) of you touching the ground. (It gets tricky if a player is running or jumping.)
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    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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    Default Re: Hands past off side line

    Quote Originally Posted by Zebra1922 View Post
    I'm going to get pedantic now, but what law stops a player from having their hands on the ground in a defensive, sprinter style start position? Surely we're not saying they're on the ground and out of the game? Even if you do as soon as they lift that hand they are back OK again?
    Nothing, but as Pinky says, provided their hands are behind the offside line.
    Both Ruck and Maul laws.say
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    Players must join the ruck or retire behind their offside line immediately."
    (They removed "feet" from the law wording and I believe specifically to address the "3 point stance")
    Tell em it's Law 23 and smile

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    Default Re: Hands past off side line

    Quote Originally Posted by Zebra1922 View Post
    I'm going to get pedantic now, but what law stops a player from having their hands on the ground in a defensive, sprinter style start position? Surely we're not saying they're on the ground and out of the game? Even if you do as soon as they lift that hand they are back OK again?
    The law that requires players to stay on their feet

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