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    Default Re: Kicking ball out of a ruck. Is this illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    Frankly - no. Its been the history of law changes since the early 90s at least.

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    This is another joke for TV rugby, no need to change the existing laws, very few players were savvy enough to get their foot on the ball to disrupt the opposition. The law makers are turning the game into a one sided contest once you have the ball. They'll be removing flankers next
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrainor View Post
    . The law makers are turning the game into a one sided contest once you have the ball. They'll be removing flankers next
    Tru that.

    Flankers were removed years ago when they were required to stay bound in scrum. A flippin joke. We use to call them "breakaways". The real reason they have to stay bound is to provide more space for the backs. all for da money

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    Default Re: Kicking ball out of a ruck. Is this illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ctrainor View Post
    This is another joke for TV rugby, no need to change the existing laws, very few players were savvy enough to get their foot on the ball to disrupt the opposition. The law makers are turning the game into a one sided contest once you have the ball. They'll be removing flankers next
    My experience has been a bit different. I've seen plenty of less talented players attempt to kick a ball out of a ruck and end up injuring themselves or someone that was actually rucking in a ruck. I think the new law trials are spot on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerRef View Post
    My experience has been a bit different. I've seen plenty of less talented players attempt to kick a ball out of a ruck and end up injuring themselves or someone that was actually rucking in a ruck. I think the new law trials are spot on.
    I call that learning, but rest assured now you'll be able to PK them for being "less talented".

    Hopefully these less talented players will be able not to nudge the ball out accidentally as they lift feet forward and over to ruck the ball.

    Intention is hard to referee. Whether a kick is intentional or happenstance will be also.

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    i'm glad to be rid of it, not sure who invented it or when it became vogue, a bad invention IMHO.

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    I agree with Bikerref and VM75, I'm glad this law has come in. More and more frequently people were trying to work their way through or over a ruck to kick the ball out, causing danger through where there feet were going, particularly where people were on the floor (and what ruck stays upright these days?).

    This law change will prevent potentially dangerous action, and I don't see it has any particular impact on people's ability play rugby the 'right' way. There is still an option for a clear contest for the ball, even once a ruck has formed, we are just removing some of the more dangerous aspects of that ruck.

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    I wonder how much of a problem/danger it really is (stats on players kicked whilst in a ruck etc) compared to "its not what we think should be allowed because its 'wrong' old boy"

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    Default Re: Kicking ball out of a ruck. Is this illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paule23 View Post
    I agree with Bikerref and VM75, I'm glad this law has come in. More and more frequently people were trying to work their way through or over a ruck to kick the ball out, causing danger through where there feet were going, particularly where people were on the floor (and what ruck stays upright these days?).

    This law change will prevent potentially dangerous action, and I don't see it has any particular impact on people's ability play rugby the 'right' way. There is still an option for a clear contest for the ball, even once a ruck has formed, we are just removing some of the more dangerous aspects of that ruck.
    Yes. I can see quite clearly now that heeling the ball backwards won't in any way endanger anyone on the ground.
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    Default Re: Kicking ball out of a ruck. Is this illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paule23 View Post
    I agree with Bikerref and VM75, I'm glad this law has come in. More and more frequently people were trying to work their way through or over a ruck to kick the ball out, causing danger through where there feet were going, particularly where people were on the floor (and what ruck stays upright these days?).

    This law change will prevent potentially dangerous action, and I don't see it has any particular impact on people's ability play rugby the 'right' way. There is still an option for a clear contest for the ball, even once a ruck has formed, we are just removing some of the more dangerous aspects of that ruck.
    (c) Kicking. A player must not kick an opponent.

    I think we had a law already,

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