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    Default Re: Refuse to engage, pull rucking opponent off feet

    Which player is being positive here?

    I would argue that the Red player is being positive because he has supported his own weight and is defending the ball. the Blue player is acting negatively by pulling over the Red player.

    IMO you can manage this with a quick call of "Leave it Blue!" and allow the Red #9 to play the ball away from the breakdown.
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    Default Re: Refuse to engage, pull rucking opponent off feet

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I'd suggest that this is a misinterpretation of 10.2(d).
    I don't agree. I think the Blue player intentionally caused the Red player to breach the law by pulling him forward off his feet over the ball and then appealed to the referee. If this isn't counter to 10.2(d) what is?

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    Default Re: Refuse to engage, pull rucking opponent off feet

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisR View Post
    If this isn't counter to 10.2(d) what is?
    It's to stop what you may call the flop & fake:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcEz4z9Byvo

    and this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC-H2wXK4T4

    and:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aud1W093f68
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    Default Re: Refuse to engage, pull rucking opponent off feet

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    It's to stop what you may call the flop & fake:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcEz4z9Byvo
    This one is hilarious, and expertly handled by the referee.
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    Default Re: Refuse to engage, pull rucking opponent off feet

    When I read 10.2(d) I see two parts.

    (d) A player must not commit any act that may lead the match officials to consider that that player was subject to foul play or any other type of infringement committed by an opponent.

    I read the second that as "the". Not too far fetched considering the 11-years old editor.

    If it were so then intentionally causing an opponent to break the law would be covered, such as fake pass from scrum. Otherwise we're left with 10.4(m) which is very broad.
    Last edited by ChrisR; 10-02-17 at 11:02.

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