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    Silly question i couldn't find the answer for in the laws. If the ref wants to talk to a player to warn him (say he did nothing against the rules, but close enough) and calls him. The player replies "you wanna talk to me, you come here. I'm tired and need to preserve my energy".
    Can that merit a penalty/YC/RC?

    Again, the player has done nothing wrong until the ref calls him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross View Post
    Silly question i couldn't find the answer for in the laws. If the ref wants to talk to a player to warn him (say he did nothing against the rules, but close enough) and calls him. The player replies "you wanna talk to me, you come here. I'm tired and need to preserve my energy".
    Can that merit a penalty/YC/RC?

    Again, the player has done nothing wrong until the ref calls him.
    I would only have a formal chat/admonishment if a player has committed a foul play offence. And if the player refused to come over for his admonishment then they would be looking at a harsher sanction then previously. If its a marginal thing, or not material and I am looking to do a bit of management with out a penalty, then I will chat with the player on the run, or at the next down time. If they refuse my management advise then they are likely to be penalized soon enough.

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    If the player has that sort of attitude ...
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
    The Referee by John Dryden

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    Firstly, I wouldn't be calling him over unless he'd done something significant - in which case I'd call the captain first, but howabout:

    "Go and preserve your energy on that seat over there by the timekeeper then. 10 minutes should do you"

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    I understand the player's attitude is pedantic and unfriendly, but what law/rule did he break?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross View Post
    I understand the player's attitude is pedantic and unfriendly, but what law/rule did he break?
    10(s) All players must respect the authority of the referee. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerCraig View Post
    10(s) All players must respect the authority of the referee. ?
    Does the referee really have the Authority to ask a player to come and speak to him if that player has not broken any laws? I'm doubtful that a referee does. I think the referee can request a chat, but not demand it unless the player has actually done something wrong.

    I think giving a YC for this would be a mistake that would cost the referee credibility - both in this game and in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by damo View Post
    Does the referee really have the Authority to ask a player to come and speak to him if that player has not broken any laws? I'm doubtful that a referee does. I think the referee can request a chat, but not demand it unless the player has actually done something wrong.

    I think giving a YC for this would be a mistake that would cost the referee credibility - both in this game and in the future.
    Agree 100%

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    If I wanted to chat to a player, as opposed to giving a "warning", I would move toward the player and give the "invitation" If the player moved to meet me "half way" happy days otherwise I continue my line. If he moved away after the ball, I'd speak at the next breakdown. Why be authoritatrian?

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    If you need to chat to him - he comes to you.
    If you want to chat to him - you go to him.

    Calling him out gives the appearance he has broken a law and can cause you problems if he commits an offence in a short space of time after you have talked to him (opposition and crowd may be expecting a card).
    Last edited by leaguerefaus; 12-04-17 at 07:04.

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