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    Default Re: High tackle on a falling player

    "Zero tolerance" approaches to behavioral issues are usually a substitute for good judgement and typically fail in their objectives.

    No, I don't have a study to pass along, just a few anecdotal references.

    In the instance illustrated in the OP issuing a YC will have the deterrence value of zero in preventing high tackles. About the same effect as a PK to the BC for 'going off his feet' will prevent players from slipping.

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    Default Re: High tackle on a falling player

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisR View Post
    "Zero tolerance" approaches to behavioral issues are usually a substitute for good judgement and typically fail in their objectives.
    Absolutely.

    In fact I think it's worse than your slipping analogy. A player can't do much to cause opponents to slip, but he can deliberately duck into tackles.

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    From A BBC Article:

    "We're back to the Wild West"

    For a few weeks after the new sanctions were introduced in January referees flashed cards of both colours, then the Six Nations arrived and everything went quiet. An international rugby coach, who does not wish to be named, has said that rugby's "Wild West" has returned. What he meant was that the zero tolerance approach has been watered-down and that high tackles are going unpunished, or not sufficiently punished, in the way that World Rugby's sanctions demand.

    The full article:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39630540

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    Default Re: High tackle on a falling player

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckieB View Post
    From A BBC Article:

    "We're back to the Wild West"

    For a few weeks after the new sanctions were introduced in January referees flashed cards of both colours, then the Six Nations arrived and everything went quiet. An international rugby coach, who does not wish to be named, has said that rugby's "Wild West" has returned. What he meant was that the zero tolerance approach has been watered-down and that high tackles are going unpunished, or not sufficiently punished, in the way that World Rugby's sanctions demand.

    The full article:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39630540
    And yet we're discussing an incident that's exactly the opposite...

    It has calmed down a bit, granted. I haven't seen anyone YC'd for tackling a player driving head first for the goal line for a while (then again, I haven't seen Mitrea referee for a while), but there are regular instances of players ducking or slipping into tackles being penalised whereas they wouldn't previously.
    Last edited by DocY; 25-04-17 at 17:04.

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    Default Re: High tackle on a falling player

    Quote Originally Posted by DocY View Post
    And yet we're discussing an incident that's exactly the opposite...

    It has calmed down a bit, granted. I haven't seen anyone YC'd for tackling a player driving head first for the goal line for a while (then again, I haven't seen Mitrea referee for a while), but there are regular instances of players ducking or slipping into tackles being penalised whereas they wouldn't previously.
    Well, it's not an article with a slant that I could directly relate to. As you say this was the opposite, which seems to serves to reinforce the view that it is being enforced.
    Last edited by ChuckieB; 25-04-17 at 17:04.

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    Default Re: High tackle on a falling player

    In the Clermont v Leinster game NO twice penalised a high tackle with a PK only, explaining that the ball carrier had dipped very low, hence only a PK

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