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    Default Maul / Choke tackle

    Hi all

    Can't find clarification about the maul forming, so would appreciate your views and opinions.

    During a game of 7s, Red take the ball into contact and Blue players hold the ball carrier up. Additional Blue players assist, the Red player is still in possession and not moving anywhere and unable to pass the ball.

    The law states that A maul begins when a player carrying the ball is held by one or more opponents, and one or more of the ball carrier’s team mates bind on the ball carrier. A maul therefore consists, when it begins, of at least three players, all on their feet; the ball carrier and one player from each team. All the players involved must be caught in or bound to the maul and must be on their feet and moving towards a goal line. Open play has ended.

    http://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=17

    I'm unsure on what the right award would be here, as no supporting Red player joined into contact.

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by OB..; 27-04-17 at 09:04.

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    Default Re: Maul / Choke tackle

    It's not a maul, and if the ball carrier is still on his feet it's not yet a tackle.. So wait and see what happens..

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    It's not a maul, and if the ball carrier is still on his feet it's not yet a tackle.. So wait and see what happens..
    and verbally make it clear to the players what you are doing.
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    Hmmm... Are we going to see the birth of uncontested mauls?

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    Default Re: Maul / Choke tackle

    How would that happen DocY?
    Red takes the ball into contact, blue binds on and since it´s no tackle red close the passing lines in blue´s line?
    Sounds weird and pointless, unless red knows that they lose possession everytime they go into contact (due to incompetence). As long as the BC stays on his feet long enough, there is no way the defending team can form an uncontested maul. One Defender is enough to form a maul.

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    More about trying to retain possession if you recognise one of your players is being choke tackled - if no team mates join, it's not a maul so not a turn over.

    As you can probably tell, I'm not a coach.

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    Default Re: Maul / Choke tackle

    1 red (BC) v multiple blues, no maul...

    I don't see that this is likely to end up with red getting the ball. Either red gets to ground pretty sharpish and gets rucked past and loses the ball, or gets marched downfield some considerable distance where
    - blue strip him of the ball
    - get him to ground and ruck over
    - the whole thing collapses, ball unavailable and blue get a scrum for going forward.

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    If this group hug becomes static and everyone looks confused you don't have to wait until it collapses or somebody starts hauling people out by their collars; "Never coming out, scrum, team going forwards etc"
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    Default Re: Maul / Choke tackle

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    1 red (BC) v multiple blues, no maul...

    I don't see that this is likely to end up with red getting the ball. Either red gets to ground pretty sharpish and gets rucked past and loses the ball, or gets marched downfield some considerable distance where
    - blue strip him of the ball
    - get him to ground and ruck over
    - the whole thing collapses, ball unavailable and blue get a scrum for going forward.

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    Default Re: Maul / Choke tackle

    Quote Originally Posted by tim White View Post
    If this group hug becomes static and everyone looks confused you don't have to wait until it collapses or somebody starts hauling people out by their collars; "Never coming out, scrum, team going forwards etc"
    yup, of course.

    So ball to blue again.

    I see no manner in which this "tactic" by red can "work" or what they are achieving. Particularly in 7s where possession is 99% of everything.

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