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    Default Law Book cut in half

    Full review of the Law book looks to be going full steam ahead

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    Default Re: Law Book cut in half

    Why is it that NZ seem to be driving and announcing this?
    Why aren't World Rugby announcing this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    Why is it that NZ seem to be driving and announcing this?
    Why aren't World Rugby announcing this?
    Tail wagging dog?

    I read about this on Friday/Saturday, here

    http://www.punditarena.com/rugby/rmu...redefine-ruck/


    Why is it that England seem to be driving and announcing this?
    Why aren't World Rugby announcing this?
    Tail wagging dog?

    The reality is that this has been in the wind for about 18 months.

    Two of the changes are good ones IMO

    1. The tackler will lose his right to play the ball from any direction. He will have to go through the gate other players. (this is an idea a suggested here a coupe of years ago; the referee would no longer have to remember who is and who is not a tackler)

    2. Only one player (attacker or defender) will be needed to form a ruck. So as soon as a jackler arrives and goes for the ball, a ruck is formed and offside lines appear (It will put a stop to the business that happened in England v Italy this last 6N). Not sure where these offside lines would be, the jackler's hindmost feet would be his teams, perhaps a line across the field passing through the back (entry) of the opponent's gate?
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    Law Book cut in half

    Which half are they going to keep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post

    1. The tackler will lose his right to play the ball from any direction. He will have to go through the gate other players. (this is an idea a suggested here a coupe of years ago; the referee would no longer have to remember who is and who is not a tackler)
    the upside (apart from referee memory) is that there will be less issue with tackler getting to his feet and taking up space on the 'wrong' side of the ruck

    the downside is that there will be less propensity for the tackler to go to ground as he will be completely out of the game. Tacklers staying on their feet/higher may lead to more mauls/maul turnovers, lifting tackles and/or high tackles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    2. Only one player (attacker or defender) will be needed to form a ruck. So as soon as a jackler arrives and goes for the ball, a ruck is formed and offside lines appear (It will put a stop to the business that happened in England v Italy this last 6N). Not sure where these offside lines would be, the jackler's hindmost feet would be his teams, perhaps a line across the field passing through the back (entry) of the opponent's gate?
    I'm not sure I like this. League got rid of the distinction between tackles and rucks.

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    the downside is that there will be less propensity for the tackler to go to ground as he will be completely out of the game. Tacklers staying on their feet/higher may lead to more mauls/maul turnovers, lifting tackles and/or high tackles.
    The tackled player has to still be on their feet to have a maul. If it was as easy to keep a player in possession off the ground, it would happen more frequently.

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    2. Only one player (attacker or defender) will be needed to form a ruck. So as soon as a jackler arrives and goes for the ball, a ruck is formed and offside lines appear (It will put a stop to the business that happened in England v Italy this last 6N). Not sure where these offside lines would be, the jackler's hindmost feet would be his teams, perhaps a line across the field passing through the back (entry) of the opponent's gate?
    This will be the interesting one for me - seeing what coaches and players come up with to best benefit from it. I'm not personally entirely convinced - the offside at a tackle was dropped because as I predicted (amongst others!) it wold make a line break almost impossible to defend. This is just none stage removed - a line break with eventiual tackle (full back) creates an offside line merely by a suppoorter arriving and taking up position over the ball. It wold mean it needs probably three players to effect ir rather than the previous two to be fair. But its still the same scenario.

    Q: 15 makes a line break and is tackled by 15. 12 in support stands over the ball - ruck formed. Presumably the same player can now step backwards (ruck over) and pick up the ball (the offside line from that ruck still exists however for retiring defenders.) ??

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    Possible derail:

    I don't have an issue with that Italian tactic. The "problems" surrounding it were it was the only tactic Italy had, and England were initially too stupid to think of a solution... and Poite struggled at times himself to work it out. As part of a (possible) overall defensive plan I think its very valid option.

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    Default Re: Law Book cut in half

    And this touted law change in itself has contributed to cut the size of the law book by how much?

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    Default Re: Law Book cut in half

    No need to cut it in half - someone else has already done this for you https://playnrl.com/media/2363/arl-r...pc-1171219.pdf

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