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    Default Re: Quick throw in

    Ian, why do you always come across so aggressive and arrogant? We come here to discuss and debate laws, interpretations etc. Absolutely nothing wrong with disagreeing, this is a complex game, laws can be poorly worded, generally accepted practice may differ from the law etc. Argue against people by all means, but there's no need to be so aggressive about it.

    I'd like to think this should be a place where we can politely debate things, respect others opinions and hopefully all learn and become better referees from it. I don't think an aggressive or sarcastic response is the right way to deal with things.

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    Default Re: Quick throw in

    Quote Originally Posted by Guyseep View Post
    "A quick throw in is allowed only before the defending team approaches the lineout/line of touch".
    Now define "defending team approaches the lineout/line of touch"

    Is the fullback 40m away moving upfield approaching the line of touch?

    I'm with Ian. It ain't broke, don't fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paule23 View Post
    Ian, why do you always come across so aggressive and arrogant? We come here to discuss and debate laws, interpretations etc. Absolutely nothing wrong with disagreeing, this is a complex game, laws can be poorly worded, generally accepted practice may differ from the law etc. Argue against people by all means, but there's no need to be so aggressive about it.

    I'd like to think this should be a place where we can politely debate things, respect others opinions and hopefully all learn and become better referees from it. I don't think an aggressive or sarcastic response is the right way to deal with things.
    Don't waste your breath, Paul. Leopard & spots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paule23 View Post
    Ian, why do you always come across so aggressive and arrogant? We come here to discuss and debate laws, interpretations etc. Absolutely nothing wrong with disagreeing, this is a complex game, laws can be poorly worded, generally accepted practice may differ from the law etc. Argue against people by all means, but there's no need to be so aggressive about it.

    I'd like to think this should be a place where we can politely debate things, respect others opinions and hopefully all learn and become better referees from it. I don't think an aggressive or sarcastic response is the right way to deal with things.
    A lot gets missed when text is being used. I don't tend to use smileys much.

    The suggestion to add "without delay" to a QTi is not a good one; it is a step in the wrong direction to be taking the game. Rugby refereeing is already subjective enough as it is without adding to that subjectivity by taking away well defined and well understood limits on when a QTi can be taken, limits that everyone on the field understands. You would be replacing it with yet another judgement the referee is expected to make at touch and line-out time. In short, it is a solution looking for a nonexistent problem to solve.

    Now, if you can explain to me some actual technical reason why a QTi not taken immediately is a problem then I'll be more receptive. But if you are going to go with "it seems wrong" or "it looks very weird" or gobbledygook of that kind, then forget it. Those are not valid reasons.
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    Default Re: Quick throw in

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    Don't waste your breath, Paul. Leopard & spots.
    If you have an actual, constructive contribution to make, then make it.

    If you just want to troll, then please do so somewhere else.

    PS: You haven't addressed my answer in post #20 to your question in post #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    PS: You haven't addressed my answer in post #20 to your question in post #19
    Yeah, same scenario just change gaggle to slowly approach LoT
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    Yeah, same scenario just change gaggle to slowly approach LoT
    Well, I'd let the QTi be taken if they haven't reached the LoT. It will encourage them to get themselves to the lineout quicker next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    If you have an actual, constructive contribution to make, then make it.

    If you just want to troll, then please do so somewhere else.
    I've been on this ride before. If you can't see how deriding people's POV by telling them they have a burr up their arse is likely is to cause offence, then as I said to Paul, leopard & spots. But your post #24 is certainly more civil, so you clearly get it when you want to.

    But you keep on getting away with it with no contrition, so more power to you. Well done.
    Last edited by Dickie E; 27-08-17 at 12:08.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    Well, I'd let the QTi be taken if they haven't reached the LoT. It will encourage them to get themselves to the lineout quicker next time.
    In the scenario, it is the throwing team who is slow to the LoT. That is the tactic. Make it look like a normal lineout, then pull a QTI fast one.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Quick throw in

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    Now define "defending team approaches the lineout/line of touch"

    Is the fullback 40m away moving upfield approaching the line of touch?

    I'm with Ian. It ain't broke, don't fix it.

    didds
    "defending team approaching the lineout/line of touch" = them standing at their mark in the lineout. Simple :P

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