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    Default Re: prop's feet

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    Bind is always maintained.
    Then sounds fine to me, as the bind provides the stability.

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    Had School Boys Vic vs Tas U18 on Sunday. One of the Tasmanian props was doing this movement at every scrum. His hips were below shoulders (as the oppo prop couldn't bend that far). On the feed with the shove it was a 50/50 call whether he would get a reasonable drive on or push the other prop up. Had 6 completed scrums with the two of them on, 3 "worked" (as in the ball came out, they looked messy), 3 ended in a PK, a few resets due to slips in the mud and the last one I blew up early as one of locks went for a crotch bind. We had a couple of changes on both sides and the scrums settled right down when they both went off (rolling subs). I did notice that the Tasmanian prop's legs were so far back a couple of times that it was his hooker and the oppo prop preventing him from face planting.

    I don't see an issue with someone doing what you suggested, provided both props have the strength to maintain safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod Burton View Post
    I blew up early as one of locks went for a crotch bind
    purely out of interest, crotch bind not permitted at U18 in Aus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    purely out of interest, crotch bind not permitted at U18 in Aus?

    didds
    that's a simple question with a complex answer.

    Generally, all junior rugby (ie U18 and down) requires no crotch bind. Why? No idea - maybe to stop a lock getting trapped in a collapse.

    However, there are a series of trials being conducted where different age groups are allowed to use crotch bind if they wish.

    So in my parish (Victoria), for U16 club rugby (ie not schools), crotch binding is allowed. When those kids then move onto U18, crotch binding is then banned again.

    Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    purely out of interest, crotch bind not permitted at U18 in Aus?

    didds
    Crotch binding not allowed in Tasmanian under age rugby, was told that the rep match was to refereed under the local by-laws. The amount of shorts that the lock had in the crotch bind that I saw would have been very uncomfortable for the prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod Burton View Post
    Crotch binding not allowed in Tasmanian under age rugby, was told that the rep match was to refereed under the local by-laws. The amount of shorts that the lock had in the crotch bind that I saw would have been very uncomfortable for the prop.
    I hear you can get a good handfull of a Tasmania's shorts without any discomfort
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    The tighthead must be shit, as I would be moving my body, so the loosehead slips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I reffed an U18 game yesterday and one of the LH props is an elite schoolboy player.

    At each scrum, on the "bind" call, he would grasp his opponent's jumper in the correct way, then use his left arm to hold his weight while he shifted his feet backwards. He could then hold that pose indefinitely.

    Once the "set" call was made he was in an excellent position to let his arm relax, simply fall forward and put on a good hit and be in a strong & low position. There was no hit & follow and didn't cause any scrum instability or collapse.

    I've never seen this before and wonder if it is legal.

    Thoughts?
    Dickie, I thought the current approach was to require front rows to hold their own weight before the set, so that would suggest that pushing on your opponent to stay up when you move your feet back is not OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinky View Post
    Dickie, I thought the current approach was to require front rows to hold their own weight before the set, so that would suggest that pushing on your opponent to stay up when you move your feet back is not OK.
    OK & thanks. Is that documented?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I hear you can get a good handfull of a Tasmania's shorts without any discomfort
    I'll pay that one. Just wait till I bump into you again.

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