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    I think it's about time the problem of ill-tempered, ill mannered, discourteous postings that plague the forum was properly addressed

    I see two ways this can be done

    1 - A call to action to the moderators.

    The mods could sort this out, and I call on them to bring to the forum the same techniques that they use to manage a rugby game. I'd like to see
    - a short 'PMB' - a statement setting out the conduct that must be observed (be polite, be respectful. That's probably enough, TBH)
    - then sanction people not observing. I'd recommend the mods use ATP, and YC. These techniques are very effective on the pitch, and we all understand them. I reckon they'd work here.
    - the mods are going to have to work out for themselves how to deal with misconduct by one of their own... I am sure they can do that.

    2 - community feedback

    If mods don't want to / can't take on this task, we may be able to manage it as a group.
    My proposal is for everyone to actively use the 'dislike' button, to signal that we dislike the tone of a post (regardless of whether you agree with the argument being expressed). that might work.

    We could do both

    (and .... if anyone thinks any of my posts have been part of the problem -- please feel to go back to the specific post and click dislike. Or just do so going forward - I would notice)

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    Default Re: Forum Behaviour

    i think you limeys have a saying. pot meet kettle

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    Default Re: Forum Behaviour

    Quote Originally Posted by illinois rugger View Post
    i think you limeys have a saying. pot meet kettle
    Isn't this just the sort of thing Crossref is talking about? And the very 1st reply?

    I think self policing is the way to go, we soon find what is generally acceptable and call out this that are not. If it turns out the level is in the wrong place for some of us we take our business elsewhere.

    See above for a dislike btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by illinois rugger View Post
    i think you limeys have a saying. pot meet kettle
    Hi Illinois
    So you have been a member of the forum for eight years , and that's the first time you have ever replied to, liked or disliked any of my posts ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Hi Illinois
    So you have been a member of the forum for eight years , and that's the first time you have ever replied to, liked or disliked any of my posts ..
    what I find baffling is one regular contributor thanked Illinois for his post and another liked it.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    I rather suspect that Illinois rugger is a sock puppet (nine posts in eight years, last posted nearly two years ago, and yet was online to read and respond to my post inside an hour).'
    (and "limey" makes me smile, has any real American used that word since about 1955 ?)
    Obviously I don't know who it is, but I have a theory. mods perhaps you can see the IP address of posters ? Does Illinois rigger use the same computer as any regular poster ? What's the policy on sock puppets ?
    Last edited by crossref; 29-08-17 at 07:08.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illinois rugger View Post
    i think you limeys have a saying. pot meet kettle
    Great start.

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    Default Re: Forum Behaviour

    Ignoring the sock/troll is a better strategy than investigating him.

    FWIW, I follow this forum avidly and though I don't post that much anymore I think the level of discourse is generally OK. Others might disagree, and that's fine.
    "There is far too much talk about good ball and bad ball. In my opinion, good ball is when you have possession and bad ball is when the opposition have it." - Dick Jeeps

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    Or simply ignore those you have a problem with. Take a look at yourelf and ask would you accept a post in that tone etc. If you can deal with it fair enough. Just because your are told your talking nonsense should not really be a problem if you are thick enough skinned to referee.

    I'm guessing our American friend was referring to the OP. there is some merit in the comment. This is not a playground we are gown ups.

    I can't recall anything that anyone with a pair should be prissy about.

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    Default Re: Forum Behaviour

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    I rather suspect that Illinois rugger is a sock puppet (nine posts in eight years, last posted nearly two years ago, and yet was online to read and respond to my post inside an hour).'
    (and "limey" makes me smile, has any real American used that word since about 1955 ?)
    Obviously I don't know who it is, but I have a theory. mods perhaps you can see the IP address of posters ? Does Illinois rigger use the same computer as any regular poster ? What's the policy on sock puppets ?
    Yes, I know who you think it is Crossref (yes, you are that transparent) but you are wrong, I would not bother wasting my time.

    The reality is, he is probably a lurker. This forum has plenty of lurkers (over 60 members have logged in the last 24 hours... how many have posted). Just on the first page of the member list I found a user who joined in 2010, has two posts, and last logged in 15 hours ago. Another joined 2013, has 5 posts and last logged in 14 hours ago. Not everyone posts on forums they are members of.

    Looking up the IP number is easy, you can even get an approximate Google Earth location for the provider (not so easy to find the actual location of the user though). Finding out what type of computer they are using is not possible in this version of vBulletin - I'm not sure that Robbie could even find that out, and it wouldn't prove much anyway. If I bother to look it up, I certainly will not be publishing it outside of the staff forum. That would be a breach privacy and therefore against forum rules.

    Hopefully, illinois rigger will post again and elaborate.
    "Never underestimate the power of the Internet to lend unwarranted credibility to the colossally misinformed"
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