Forum Behaviour

[crossref]

Ignoring the sock/troll is a better strategy than investigating him.
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but on the other hand investigating is fun !

illinois rugger joined in 2009, in the middle of a spat between Ian Cook and Brian Moore
needless to say, iilinois rugger was on Ian's side.
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread....ght=#post79459
and Ian liked what Illinois had to say
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread....ll=1#post79465
and Illinois came to Ian's support later in the year on the same topic
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread....ght=#post98398

So I'll ask the question : Ian -- are you and illinois by any chance the same person ?

[Swiss Ref]

Actually I don't think its about being prissy or possessing cojones.
Its just encouraging debate to solve problems, questions and being literally a resource forum where new refs and old feel comfortable to ask questions

Or simply ignore those you have a problem with. Take a look at yourelf and ask would you accept a post in that tone etc. If you can deal with it fair enough. Just because your are told your talking nonsense should not really be a problem if you are thick enough skinned to referee.

I'm guessing our American friend was referring to the OP. there is some merit in the comment. This is not a playground we are gown ups.

I can't recall anything that anyone with a pair should be prissy about.

[damo]

but on the other hand investigating is fun !

illinois rugger joined in 2009, in the middle of a spat between Ian Cook and Brian Moore
needless to say, iilinois rugger was on Ian's side.
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread....ght=#post79459
and Ian liked what Illinois had to say
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread....ll=1#post79465
and Illinois came to Ian's support later in the year on the same topic
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread....ght=#post98398

So I'll ask the question : Ian -- are you and illinois by any chance the same person ?

Is that all you've got? A couple of posts in which Ian and this Illinois character happen to disagree with Moore about how important it is to put the ball into the scrum correctly?

TBH, Moore is very easy to disagree with.

[Ian_Cook]

but on the other hand investigating is fun !

illinois rugger joined in 2009, in the middle of a spat between Ian Cook and Brian Moore
needless to say, iilinois rugger was on Ian's side.
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread....ght=#post79459
and Ian liked what Illinois had to say
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread....ll=1#post79465
and Illinois came to Ian's support later in the year on the same topic
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread....ght=#post98398

So I'll ask the question : Ian -- are you and illinois by any chance the same person ?

No we're not. I have no need to hide behind a persona to tell you exactly what I think of you

I have posted in the Staff forum on this issue. Someone else can deal with it now.

[Ian_Cook]

Actually I don't think its about being prissy or possessing cojones.
Its just encouraging debate to solve problems, questions and being literally a resource forum where new refs and old feel comfortable to ask questions

More importantly there are certain forum members who take great delight in nitpicking when an experienced forum member and referee answers a question from a new referee, and it turns into shit fight over minutia. I find this particularly annoying. While the more experienced member has given good advice that might be lacking detail, the fact is that detail is NOT what is important when dealing with a new referee... BASICS are what are important, the details can be dealt with later.

I can link you to a recent example of this if you like (but rather do it via PM as I don't want the shit fight starting again).

[Ian_Cook]

Is that all you've got? A couple of posts in which Ian and this Illinois character happen to disagree with Moore about how important it is to put the ball into the scrum correctly?

TBH, Moore is very easy to disagree with.

About half the rugby communty disagrees with BCM, so that puts illinois rugger and I same 50% of rugby fans on the planet!

Wow, so conclusive!

[Phil E]

I think it's about time the problem of ill-tempered, ill mannered, discourteous postings that plague the forum was properly addressed

More importantly there are certain forum members who take great delight in nitpicking when an experienced forum member and referee answers a question from a new referee, and it turns into shit fight over minutia. I find this particularly annoying. While the more experienced member has given good advice that might be lacking detail, the fact is that detail is NOT what is important when dealing with a new referee... BASICS are what are important, the details can be dealt with later.

For me the latter is far more detrimental to this forum than the former (which happens less often).
It has led to more experienced referees leaving, or only posting very occasionally; thus the forum and its members lose out on their advice.

[Christy]

hi all
interesting conversation .
the way i have handled same when a member decided to take what i felt was a deliberate personnel attack about my persona .
in what real was just a pointless provocative post which had no materiality to question i had posted
was to no longer read that posters posts .

even when same have replied to further posts i have put up .
as soon as i see offenders name , i simply scroll past same & totally ignore their post .

i have been ignoring poster for i would say over a year .

i think this is a great forum
and have learnt a lot from same , general banter i feel is healthy .
look forward to staying active

[Wedgie]

One person's lurker is another's observer....

[Accylad]

For me the latter is far more detrimental to this forum than the former (which happens less often).
It has led to more experienced referees leaving, or only posting very occasionally; thus the forum and its members lose out on their advice.

I used to use the site quite often and while I have always been a rare poster I have largely given up on it as both a refereeing resource and an enjoyable place to read posts (or lurk if you prefer)... It is too rare to find a question posed and answered reasonably simply. Now I know TLOtG are not always straightforward but for an inexperienced referee some of the threads must be even more confusing than I find them!

I would not presume to think I know it all, I make my share of on field gaffs, and I take a look occasionally as I have now to see if there is anything going on of interest and to see if I can learn anything.

too often I find that the posts drift off into great detail that become turgid and I loose interest as a "hard core" have fun debating. My lack of intellectual rigour maybe....

Having said that I do hope it continues because at its best it can be very good if you are able pick the wheat you need from what you find is chaff.