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    Quote Originally Posted by andyscott View Post

    Get it stable and then he puts it in.
    Just tell the #9 at your pre-match that it is HIS responsibility not to put the ball into the scrum until it is S, S & S.
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    Of course, if the scrum is not stable you might ping his team for early shove?
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    NO! Ping for early shove if there's an early shove. That'll happen before he feeds.

    If the front rows are squirrelly and he feeds it but the scrum goes to completion then no harm, no foul but you can let him know what you want on the next one. If it goes down then deal with that.

    I think this can be an issue for SHs as on one weekend he'll be told to get it in and the next to hold it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim White View Post
    Of course, if the scrum is not stable you might ping his team for early shove?
    or the other team cos the #9 is either fearful he will get done for delaying, or figures its a sure way of highlighting the early shiove. Or I suppose he is a twit!

    hey ho.

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    There seems precious little need for the ref to stand in the way of the scrum half with these changes. The positioning of the s/h reduces the need to feed,and the ball can hit the ground immediately it hits the tunnel. So less to see that can't be achieved equally from the other side as regards initial stability of the scrum.

    Unless there is an issue on that side he might as well set himself on the other side. Then as mentioned, place the responsibility on the S/h to get it in. The referee ceases to be one part of the equation which should be a good thing?

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    The purpose of the new law must be to take control of the put in away from the ref, and given to the SH.
    So I think we shouldn't be routinely standing in the tunnel, with the primary purpose of controlling the put in

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    It is however a surefire way of letting the 9 know when you think it is stable and square -and much less likely to need a reset or other whistle. The whole engagement/feed thing has yet to settle down in the games I have seen; I would suggest manage the engagement/feed if you need to, don't manage it if you don't need to, but many players are still confused by it all.
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    So I think we shouldn't be routinely standing in the tunnel, with the primary purpose of controlling the put in[/QUOTE]

    So, how are you going to spot the oppo LH slipping his shoulder inside?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beckett50 View Post
    So, how are you going to spot the oppo LH slipping his shoulder inside?
    If you are standing there for a different reason , fair enough, but there is a current of thought that says stand there expressly in order to control the throw in .. which seems to me contrary to what WR are trying to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beckett50 View Post
    So, how are you going to spot the oppo LH slipping his shoulder inside?

    Look at the setup and the engage, then the body position post engage, then the angle of drive.
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