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    Guys,

    What are your thoughts on this?

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...63248997047496

    I agree with Wayne it's the laws, but the 9 defo threw it at the crouching player.

    Thoughts?
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    Probably depends on the level, if It was minis or juniors where there’s still an element of coaching going on *and* I was 100% it was deliberately done I think it’d be shouting play on, unsportsmanlike behaviour, thrown the ball away, and having words about appropriate conduct. Probably the same in adult games too, however I do get that at the top tiers your should know better and i’d want him to hit the deck.

    Regardless would have words as potentially a flashpoint in the making, and for me unwelcome twist to the game.

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    to save following the link - it's here
    I think WB made the right call, both in Law and in equity. It's not like when 9s take a quick penalty and run into the oppo to the get the not-10m, in this case Brits runs directly into the gap between Fotuali and the receiver, and crouches. He didn't need to be there... he chose to put himself there, and that's the risk he took



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    *shrug* nothing happens by accident at these levels apparently.

    maybe next time he will either not be there or will flatten himself to the floor to maximise his lack of involvement.

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    KF looked like he was going right, and changed at the last minute. SB went to ground early and had the ball thrown at him, at what was knee height or below.

    Contrived offence, there's a law that covers sportsmanship and this was an occasion to use it, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winchesterref View Post
    KF looked like he was going right, and changed at the last minute. SB went to ground early and had the ball thrown at him, at what was knee height or below.

    Contrived offence, there's a law that covers sportsmanship and this was an occasion to use it, I think.
    I don't really agree - - if Brits he had been on the floor flattened from a previous tackle, then got groggily to knees and had the ball thrown at him -- then I'd have more sympathy. But actually Brits arrived from distance and positioned himself into that gap.

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    Do the commentators really have it right this once? I do not see it as cynical as they are saying: the Bath SH wants to go right, changes his mind before looking left (the numbers can't have been in his favour); there is a (large - FR/lock?) Bath player obstructing his view, who jumps out of his way. It is not a good pass from the SH, it seems to drop rather than be fired directly at SB; the Bath SH makes no immediate claim for offside, he's trying to play on.

    So I suspect that this did not feel like cynical play on the field at the time.

    I'm sure that WB is well aware of cynical play and would call it when he sees it.

    Don't kneel down in a direct line between SH and his outside players.
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    For me the pass has to be aimed at a player not in a reasonable passing lane for the passer to to be accused of cynicism. This did not fit the bill.
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    I see this as no different to players falling into the opponent's side of a tackle, getting trapped, and being PK for not rolling away. The solution to that problem is to make sure that you don't fall on the opponent's side in the first place.

    In this case, its not as if there wasn't a Bath player in a position to receive that pass. If you don't want the ball passed into you when you're in on offside position, then don't be in an offside position. Simples!
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    His options were Closing down. He knew what he was doing. However SB was in his line. For me it's a penalty and words to the effect that I may consider repeat beahaviour differently thus putting him on notice.

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