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    Quote Originally Posted by Camquin View Post
    In English English we spell it cack - though both come from the same Flemish word.
    Your post rally made me cackle...

    Never mind. Since it was cack/kak on a South African website, I thought "kak" was more appropriate.


    Anyhow.... its a load of shite!
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    Hang on a minute...

    They’re saying that the defender’s infringement didn’t actually stop the try, because he could have ‘done the right thing’ instead, right?

    But if that’s the case, the infringement is immaterial!

    Yeah. Cack.

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    I have heard from a source with some authority in this matter that the elite guys are looking for a further 2 elements when the offence occurs:

    1. was the attacker in possesion of the ball? and
    2. was the attacker in the act of scoring a try?

    If the answer to these is No, then the likelihood of a PT is low.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I have heard from a source with some authority in this matter that the elite guys are looking for a further 2 elements when the offence occurs:

    1. was the attacker in possesion of the ball? and
    2. was the attacker in the act of scoring a try?

    If the answer to these is No, then the likelihood of a PT is low.
    Under that protocol, player could deliberately knock down an opponent's pass right on his own try line and not give up a PT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    Under that protocol, player could deliberately knock down an opponent's pass right on his own try line and not give up a PT!
    Possibly but I suspect they're more thinking about the "chase for the ball" situation
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I have heard from a source with some authority in this matter that the elite guys are looking for a further 2 elements when the offence occurs:

    1. was the attacker in possesion of the ball? and
    2. was the attacker in the act of scoring a try?

    If the answer to these is No, then the likelihood of a PT is low.
    So when Ford kicked the ball long against Australia, and Daly (IIRC) was chasing it, then hacked it on, if he had been taken out at that juncture it would not have been a PT because

    * he did not have possession of the ball - he was chasing his own kick ahead
    * he was not in the act of scoring as he still had to catch up to the ball with no defenders in the immediate vicinity of it?

    Can we have the twelve year old back, as they appeared to at least get the fundamental premise of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    Possibly but I suspect they're more thinking about the "chase for the ball" situation
    Like Daly v Australia presumably. Which was a nailed on try once he had fly hacked it on near the touchline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    So when Ford kicked the ball long against Australia, and Daly (IIRC) was chasing it, then hacked it on, if he had been taken out at that juncture it would not have been a PT because

    * he did not have possession of the ball - he was chasing his own kick ahead
    * he was not in the act of scoring as he still had to catch up to the ball with no defenders in the immediate vicinity of it?
    Is that the try that almost went into touch and Beale just jogged back?

    If so, then yes, I expect so. If an Australian defender had been close enough to foul him.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    Possibly but I suspect they're more thinking about the "chase for the ball" situation
    But how are you to know this? And does this become another decider for a PT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinky View Post
    But how are you to know this?
    Didn't you get the email?
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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