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    Default Re: A New Myth!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by thepercy View Post
    If it's dangerous, why allow it at any level? What does it add to the game?
    Agree. It only allows the isolated tackled player the opportunity to obstruct the opposition from getting the ball.
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    Default Re: A New Myth!!!!!!!

    I'm now in an interesting position as a ref.

    I now have knowledge that the IRB directed that squeezeball be banned for U18. I have had no correspondence from ARU either confirming or negating this directive.

    So what do I do next Saturday?
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    "Yes m'lud, governance of U18 law variations is expressly delegated to the local Unions, who have signed up to that idea"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonSmith View Post
    "Yes m'lud, governance of U18 law variations is expressly delegated to the local Unions, who have signed up to that idea"

    Buck duly passed.
    and, of course, that would all be academic because referee Dickie E would be in the dock, wondering why he didn't transfer the house into Mrs Dickie's name when he had the chance
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    Default Re: A New Myth!!!!!!!

    If you see squeeze ball & its not in your union . ( in youth matches )
    Penalise player anyway & advise him its also dangerous to them selves .

    Sanction can be .
    Off feet red 7 & making ball unplayable .
    Penalty only.

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    Squeezeball in RFUland is illegal still at U18 under nationally delegated law variations as far as I am aware.

    No, it does not appear in the U19 WR law variations, for the reasons a number of posters give above.

    I have asked up the RFU Match Officiating Management tree for confirmation, but as an active Match Observer I expect any squeezeball to be managed and sanctioned appropriately in U18 matches.

    The Group refs I watch cover Premiership Academy matches so have specifically asked about that level.

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    Word back from on high that squeezeball is not allowed at any level of U18 rugby in England, even Premiership Academy Level.
    It is liable to PK sanction but might be managed in the first instance on some occasions.

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    Default Re: A New Myth!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I'm now in an interesting position as a ref.

    I now have knowledge that the IRB directed that squeezeball be banned for U18. I have had no correspondence from ARU either confirming or negating this directive.

    So what do I do next Saturday?
    But you do? You have the ARU 2017 GMG that is clear that squeezeball in Oz is only outlawed at u12 and below. Your @ss is sufficiently covered.

    The irb request (rather than a directive as i see it) was 17 years ago...it's not on their website and what we don't know is there may have subsequently been messages from irb that softened their 'demand' and allows unions to decide themselves on such local rulings like squeezeball and crocodile rolls etc??
    Tell em it's Law 23 and smile

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    Quote Originally Posted by menace View Post
    But you do? You have the ARU 2017 GMG that is clear that squeezeball in Oz is only outlawed at u12 and below. Your @ss is sufficiently covered.

    The irb request (rather than a directive as i see it) was 17 years ago...it's not on their website and what we don't know is there may have subsequently been messages from irb that softened their 'demand' and allows unions to decide themselves on such local rulings like squeezeball and crocodile rolls etc??
    Yes and I have now confirmed independently with ARU that squeezeball is only outlawed in U12 & below in Aust. I hope it doesn't bite us on the arse.
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    Default Re: A New Myth!!!!!!!

    Communicated to me by RFU Head of Officiating for the Community Game

    For clarity, RFU Regulation 15, Appendix 9 covers the point;
    3. Squeezeball:
    No player shall use the technique known or referred to as “Squeezeball” and no person involved in the teaching or coaching of rugby may teach or coach to encourage the use the “Squeezeball” technique.
    Note: “Squeezeball” is a technique where the ball carrier goes to ground, head forward (touching or close to the ground), irrespective of immediate contact with opponents, usually keeping parallel to the touchline, holding and protecting the ball close to the chest and, when on the ground, pushing the ball back between the legs.

    http://www.englandrugby.com/mm/Docum...x9_English.pdf

    Hope this helps to inform the appropriate behaviour of coaches and for consistent safe application of the law.

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