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    Default Re: A New Myth!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by menace View Post


    The u18 scrum laws, as such, make it difficult to reward the dominating scrum. .
    I might suggest the U18 laws are designed generally speking to not reward dominant scrummaging, and safe scrummaging is the focus.

    That said safe scrummaging isn't penalised in the manner discussed when it results in securing the ball.

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    Default Re: A New Myth!!!!!!!

    Dickie, that is current U19 law, and there was a change to the full scrum laws a few years ago to make it same team as originally threw in. Of course all this presumes the wheel is not intentional, when it is a PK.

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    Default Re: A New Myth!!!!!!!

    Pretty sure I've not seen this one come up.

    Saturday, part way through the game and the weather is horrible wind rain the works! I notice it's got very dark, so i ask the home captain if the floodlights can be turned on? He says yes and calls to someone on the touchline.

    From the home pack player says, " you can't turn the lights on part way through the game, they have to be on from the start"!

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    Default Re: A New Myth!!!!!!!

    This is competition regs rather than a Law

    I would say at grassroots if both captains agree happy days
    If they disagree they stay off. If it's too dark to play you abandon the game .

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    Default Re: A New Myth!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinky View Post
    Dickie, that is current U19 law, and there was a change to the full scrum laws a few years ago to make it same team as originally threw in. Of course all this presumes the wheel is not intentional, when it is a PK.
    It is not illegal to intentionally wheel a scrum at "full laws".

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    This is competition regs rather than a Law

    I would say at grassroots if both captains agree happy days
    If they disagree they stay off. If it's too dark to play you abandon the game .
    I'd be very surprised to see that in competition regulations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    It is not illegal to intentionally wheel a scrum at "full laws".
    correct.

    I noted in the Wales v Scotland game scotland IIRC were PKd for "wheeling the scrum" but no further explananation was made as to what exactly was PKd. As Marc says - wheeling is in itself not illegal at full senior level. Rather the actions that bring about the wheel may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    I'd be very surprised to see that in competition regulations
    I am pretty sure it's in the regs for Premiership , and also in World Rugby regs for internationals

    On the other hand I don't recall it mentioned in the regs for the Middlesex Merit Tables :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBFG View Post
    Pretty sure I've not seen this one come up.

    Saturday, part way through the game and the weather is horrible wind rain the works! I notice it's got very dark, so i ask the home captain if the floodlights can be turned on? He says yes and calls to someone on the touchline.

    From the home pack player says, " you can't turn the lights on part way through the game, they have to be on from the start"!

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    Default Re: A New Myth!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    I am pretty sure it's in the regs for Premiership , and also in World Rugby regs for internationals

    On the other hand I don't recall it mentioned in the regs for the Middlesex Merit Tables :-)
    A reference would be handy.

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