Page 5 of 15 FirstFirst 123456789 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 143

Thread: Rugby Laws to become Clearer

      
  1. #41

    Resident Club Coach
    didds's Avatar

    Soc/Assoc
    N/A
    Grade
    Club Coach
    Join Date
    27 Jan 04
    Posts
    8,462
    Thanks (Received)
    42
    Likes (Received)
    681

    Default Re: Rugby Laws to become Clearer

    Quote Originally Posted by Pegleg View Post
    Surely this revised book should have been seen by: Refs (including advisors) / Players / Coaches even journos.
    This.

    Historically however WR has seemed to not consult anybody on anything regarding the laws

    didds

  2. #42
    Rugby Club Member

    Soc/Assoc
    Prefer not to say
    Grade
    Tenth
    Join Date
    10 Dec 15
    Posts
    1,414
    Thanks (Received)
    13
    Likes (Received)
    299

    Default Re: Rugby Laws to become Clearer

    Quote Originally Posted by Pegleg View Post
    Surely this revised book should have been seen by: Refs (including advisors) / Players / Coaches even journos.
    But but but... The laws aren't actually going to change at all *cough*, so there's not much need.

    TBH, I expect (hope) the only possible differences are when some refs or societies have different interpretations for rare situations - e.g. taking a QTI into the 22.

  3. #43

    Referees/Trains Referees in England
    Phil E's Avatar

    Soc/Assoc
    Staffordshire and Royal Navy
    Grade
    8
    Join Date
    22 Jan 08
    Posts
    14,176
    Thanks (Received)
    87
    Likes (Received)
    823
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Rugby Laws to become Clearer

    Quote Originally Posted by Pegleg View Post
    The problem I have is that Jan 1 is less than one month away and we have not got the book to hand.
    But if there is not going to any changes to he law does it matter?

    Surely this revised book should have been seen by: Refs (including advisors) / Players / Coaches even journos.
    Law Simplification Group: Mark Harrington (World Rugby Head of Technical Services and club head coach), Tappe Henning (Scottish Rugby Union Referee Manager and former international referee), Dr Ross Tucker (sports scientist), Rod Hill (New Zealand Rugby Referee Manager), Chris Cuthbertson (Chairman RFU Laws Committee), James Fitzgerald (World Rugby Media Manager and former international referee), Adam Pearson (web designer/illustrator).
    No players.

    Follow my blog The Rugby Ref


  4. #44
    Slowing down these days

    Soc/Assoc
    London Society
    Grade
    9+1
    Join Date
    21 Jan 09
    Posts
    222
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    16

    Default Re: Rugby Laws to become Clearer

    Finally. I've been reffing with my old trusty 1862 copy of the law book.
    You wouldn't believe the quizzical looks I get when I penalise players for walking in front if the Headmaster's house !
    I'm also impressed that some matched can last for 5 days !

    Here are some of the laws :
    39. All matches are drawn after five days, or after three days if no goal has been kicked.
    40. Two big side balls must always be in the close during a match or big side.
    41. No football shall be played between the goals till the Sixth match.
    42. Three Praepostors constitute a big side.
    43. At a big side the two players highest in the School shall toss up.
    44. Old Rugbeians shall be allowed to play at the matches of football, not however, without the consent of the two heads of the side; but no stranger may have a place kick at goal.
    45. The walk in front of the Headmaster's House, leading to the Barby Road is in goal.

    Merry Christmas !

  5. #45

    Referees/Trains Referees in England
    Phil E's Avatar

    Soc/Assoc
    Staffordshire and Royal Navy
    Grade
    8
    Join Date
    22 Jan 08
    Posts
    14,176
    Thanks (Received)
    87
    Likes (Received)
    823
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Rugby Laws to become Clearer

    Quote Originally Posted by CrouchTPEngage View Post
    Finally. I've been reffing with my old trusty 1862 copy of the law book.
    You wouldn't believe the quizzical looks I get when I penalise players for walking in front if the Headmaster's house !
    I'm also impressed that some matched can last for 5 days !

    Here are some of the laws :
    39. All matches are drawn after five days, or after three days if no goal has been kicked.
    40. Two big side balls must always be in the close during a match or big side.
    41. No football shall be played between the goals till the Sixth match.
    42. Three Praepostors constitute a big side.
    43. At a big side the two players highest in the School shall toss up.
    44. Old Rugbeians shall be allowed to play at the matches of football, not however, without the consent of the two heads of the side; but no stranger may have a place kick at goal.
    45. The walk in front of the Headmaster's House, leading to the Barby Road is in goal.

    Merry Christmas !
    I have had the privilege of refereeing on The Close at Rugby School

    Follow my blog The Rugby Ref


  6. #46
    Rugby Club Member

    Soc/Assoc
    None
    Grade
    Level 3
    Join Date
    03 Sep 14
    Posts
    3,326
    Thanks (Received)
    29
    Likes (Received)
    506

    Default Re: Rugby Laws to become Clearer

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    But if there is not going to any changes to he law does it matter?
    No players.
    Because we will be challenged by interpretations of the wording - there will be some! It would help if we are quoting the applicable wording and not the old, even if "the meaning is the same" (ho ho ho).

    The make up of the working group is one thing. The make up of the body of users is different. Most companyies trial products etc on the users before general release. Why does Rugby Union think it is so different?

  7. #47
    Rugby Club Member

    Soc/Assoc
    None
    Grade
    Level 3
    Join Date
    03 Sep 14
    Posts
    3,326
    Thanks (Received)
    29
    Likes (Received)
    506

    Default Re: Rugby Laws to become Clearer

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    This.

    Historically however WR has seemed to not consult anybody on anything regarding the laws

    didds
    Indeed, but why repeat the mistakes of history?

  8. #48

    Resident Club Coach
    didds's Avatar

    Soc/Assoc
    N/A
    Grade
    Club Coach
    Join Date
    27 Jan 04
    Posts
    8,462
    Thanks (Received)
    42
    Likes (Received)
    681

    Default Re: Rugby Laws to become Clearer

    Quote Originally Posted by Pegleg View Post
    Indeed, but why repeat the mistakes of history?
    Amen!

    didds

  9. #49
    Player or Coach ChrisR's Avatar

    Soc/Assoc
    None
    Grade
    Select Grade
    Join Date
    14 Jul 10
    Posts
    2,795
    Thanks (Received)
    19
    Likes (Received)
    224

    Default Re: Rugby Laws to become Clearer

    In a press release posted to www.rugbytoday.com Bill Beaumont is credited with the following quote:

    “This has been a truly collaborative effort with every union given the opportunity to contribute. I’d like to thank them and the working group for their full commitment to an extensive and important process. I believe what they have produced will make a big difference to the game as we seek to make rugby more accessible to all.”

    Now, I'm not sure what my union (USA Rugby) contributed. Probably not much.

    However, I have to think that if there are no actual changes to the meaning of the laws then I'm not sure what it is they could have said. It seems to me it really would be a job for a good technical writer rather than the crew listed.

    I do think that they are smart in publishing both old and new for 2018. I'll be downloading both to see how they compare.



  10. #50

    Referees/Trains Referees in England
    Phil E's Avatar

    Soc/Assoc
    Staffordshire and Royal Navy
    Grade
    8
    Join Date
    22 Jan 08
    Posts
    14,176
    Thanks (Received)
    87
    Likes (Received)
    823
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Rugby Laws to become Clearer

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisR View Post
    I do think that they are smart in publishing both old and new for 2018. I'll be downloading both to see how they compare.
    [/FONT][/COLOR]

    I may have read it wrong but I thought they meant the 2017 law book and the new slimmer 2018 law book will both apply for the 2017/2018 season in the Northern Hemisphere. I don't think they are writing a long and a short version of the 2018 book.

    Follow my blog The Rugby Ref


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •