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    Default Re: Advantage after time expired

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    2 Red 11 attempts to catch a high ball, drops it and then kicks it 50m up field , but it stays in play
    In normal time you'd blow no advantage , and have the scrum, you are not going to wait and see if blue can get it, and come back 50m to reach the gain line
    But if time has expired you would play advantage, and wait and see who gets possession. If blue do, then adv over .
    I don't understand why you're in such a hurry to call "advantage over". What is it that you are trying to achieve?
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Advantage after time expired

    A Question for those who feel yo uplay on regardless ( because the hope of a score is an "advantage" over "no hope"). How long do you suggest we keep playing? 1, 2, 3, 5, 10 20 mins etc? After all advantage must be "REAL" not just a potential to gain one.

    No whether or not you call "advantage over" may seem not to matter but there comes a point where yo umake the call " it aint gonna happen". Why get hung up on what to call . Just just the situation fairly but the idea that "if the game is still live that is an advatage" cloud reality. Remember playing on could cost a side a LBP. Of course you could argue that the side has the choice to press for the win or take the LBP.

    Just use common sense when judging advantagr - at any point during a game.

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    Default Re: Advantage after time expired

    Quote Originally Posted by Pegleg View Post
    A Question for those who feel yo uplay on regardless
    after 112 posts, I don't think I've seen anyone take that view
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Advantage after time expired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I don't understand why you're in such a hurry to call "advantage over". What is it that you are trying to achieve?
    I am not in a hurry
    You can't play endless advantage.
    Advantage ends when either
    1 the team have achieved a better position than the alternative (in this case the game ending)
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    2 the ref decides there is no chance of that happening

    In this scenario when blue get possession (1) has been achieved.

    If you keep waiting what are you waiting for ?

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    Default Re: Advantage after time expired

    This point may have already been made so apologies if it has.

    Advantage in the scenario of the knock on ad fly hack 50m... is actually redundant isn't it?

    Whatever the receiving team do with the ball, they either

    - turn it over
    - infringe eg knock on
    - score

    any of those in effect means the end of the game (assuming that if they turn it over the oppo then just kill the game or score)

    The only thing the calling of advantage over or not affects is the initially transgressing side's ability to score following a turn over.

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    Last edited by didds; 20-12-17 at 10:12.

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    Default Re: Advantage after time expired

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post

    If you keep waiting what are you waiting for ?
    I'm waiting to make sure that Red do not get some miraculous, unwarranted opportunity to benefit from their infringement.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Advantage after time expired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I'm waiting to make sure that Red do not get some miraculous, unwarranted opportunity to benefit from their infringement.
    Like having their infringement automatically win the game for them?

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    Default Re: Advantage after time expired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I'm waiting to make sure that Red do not get some miraculous, unwarranted opportunity to benefit from their infringement.
    You are waiting for something to not happen

    If you mean for a couple of seconds (blow slow) I agree , but otherwise its an endless wait

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    Default Re: Advantage after time expired

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Advantage ends when either
    1 the team have achieved a better position than the alternative (in this case the game ending) [...]
    Doesn't that come into the category of "mere opportunity"? The only real advantage they could get would be a score. At least let them try for a bit.
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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