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    Default Re: Gaming the Quick Throw law

    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    Exactly. Disallow the QTI and have the normal LO back on Blue's 5m line.

    This.

    I expect there will be feedback about this and wording will change

    Also, happy to see this in the draft Laws

    7. If the mark of touch is outside the 22, the defending team may take the quick throw
    inside the 22 but is deemed to have taken the ball into the 22.

    For the situation where a player kicks the ball into touch, or where an opposition player, who is in touch, catches the ball. the mark of touch is defined where the ball reaches the touchline.

    Hopefully, this will put an end to the imaginary "in touch" extension to the 22m line used in some countries. If the mark of touch is outside the 22m and the ball is thrown in inside the 22M, its been carried back.
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    Default Re: Gaming the Quick Throw law

    On the Quick Throw In -- the one thing that i think is a gap in the Laws (current and draft new) is - I'd like to see a Law that generally makes it an offence to block a quick throw.

    These two are helpful, but don't meet the mark


    If a player carrying the ball is forced into touch, that player must release the ball to an opposition player so that there can be a quick throw-in.
    Sanction: Penalty kick on 15-metre line

    That's fine so far as it goes, -- but it's too specific, referring to only the ball carrier. It doesn't apply to the other 14 players


    h)

    At a quick throw-in, a player must not prevent the ball being thrown in 5 metres.

    Sanction: Free Kick on 15-metre line


    and that's too soft. It's fine for someone who catches it 4.5 meters out -- but it's not appropriate for the player standing 50cm from the touchline right in the face of the would-be thrower. A PK is what's called for there.

    I'd like to see something more general like

    No player may obstruct a QTI or attempt to prevent a QTI from taking place.
    Sanction pk

    ( Which is how I reffed it on Saturday when it happened )

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    Default Re: Gaming the Quick Throw law

    Going back to the OP, I would have blown my whistle long before the enterprising full-back had even reached the half-way line.

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    Default Re: Gaming the Quick Throw law

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisR View Post
    There is no reference to the LoT in the sanction, just to the place where the quick throw was attempted.
    I read that as applying to where the QTI was taken not attempted, and I think it cannot be taken nearer the opposition goal line than the LOT so I am not going to allow this and would only offer the lineout or scrum where the QTI was forward, didn't reach 5m or the player stepped into the field of play. In other words an incorrectly taken throw as opposed to a throw from the wrong place.

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    Default Re: Gaming the Quick Throw law

    Good spot... but PK, intentional offending

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    Default Re: Gaming the Quick Throw law

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Doughty View Post
    Going back to the OP, I would have blown my whistle long before the enterprising full-back had even reached the half-way line.
    Nah. Let him tire himself out and if he doesn't run back to the LoT ping him for time wasting. Gives a whole new meaning to 'let it breathe'

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    Default Re: Gaming the Quick Throw law

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_NL View Post
    Good spot... but PK, intentional offending
    ^^^^^^^ This.

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