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    Default Re: Where the 2018 Law Book is actually different from 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Indeed , but can't be the first time you noticed ?
    No

    Correction: re-opened.
    Tell em it's Law 23 and smile

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    Default Re: Where the 2018 Law Book is actually different from 2017

    I would say that the 2018 Law Book (as in so many cases) settles an issue that has previously caused much discussion here on RR

    Q : when, exactly, is the moment when the receiver can join the line (not swapping places, but just joining) ?
    A: from now on .. he can't do that.

    It always was an uncomfortable idea. IMO it's a very sensible change, making lineouts a bit simpler.

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    Default Re: Where the 2018 Law Book is actually different from 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    I would say that the 2018 Law Book (as in so many cases) settles an issue that has previously caused much discussion here on RR

    Q : when, exactly, is the moment when the receiver can join the line (not swapping places, but just joining) ?
    A: from now on .. he can't do that.

    It always was an uncomfortable idea. IMO it's a very sensible change, making lineouts a bit simpler.
    I would be interested to see if it still occurs in 7s, as that is where the tactic was used more often than not - 2x lineout players limited opposition's opportunities to lift. Throwing-in side's Receiver moved v sharpish (once ball thrown of course) and was lifted.
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Default Re: Where the 2018 Law Book is actually different from 2017

    Or .. reflecting on it today ...did the 2018 authors consider it so blindingly obvious that the receiver can join the line that the Law allowing him to do so was unnecessary ?

    After all .. we know that the Authors are not much concerned with matching numbers

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    Default Re: Where the 2018 Law Book is actually different from 2017

    In the 2017 19.8(i):

    Where the receiver must stand. If a team uses a receiver , then that player , must be
    positioned at least 2m back from team mates in the lineout , and between the 5m and 15m
    lines , until the lineout begins.
    Once the lineout has commenced , the receiver may move into the lineout and may perform
    all actions available to players in the lineout and is liable to related sanctions.


    Before 2018 this part was interpreted to mean that:

    a.The receiver can't join until the ball is thrown and b. he may join after.

    With this section removed in 2018 are we to assume that:

    a. The receiver can join prior to the throw or b. he is not allowed to join at all?

    Or: It's "blindingly obvious" that this part was redundant and to keep whistling as you did in 2017. For me the receiver exchanging places with a lineout player is a working solution for 15's and is supported in both 2017 & 2018. I am wondering if the 7s community is thinking differently.

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    Default Re: Where the 2018 Law Book is actually different from 2017

    I guess the principle is:
    Where the 2018 Law Book is clear, apply it
    Where the 2018 Law Book is ambiguous, choose the interpretation that aligns with 2017

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    Default Re: Where the 2018 Law Book is actually different from 2017

    I have updated the table to include 2017/19.18(i) / 2018/18.16 - can the receiver join the line

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    Default Re: Where the 2018 Law Book is actually different from 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Murphy View Post
    the 9 has the ball ready to tap, attacking forwards run to take the ball on the run. 9 taps the ball when forwards or close and pops the ball to a team mate.

    or must the 9 tap the ball before any of his players begin moving?

    help and advice appreciated
    This post from the Questions thread led me to a curiosity in the 2018 law book.

    2017
    21.5 (c) If the kicker indicates to the referee the intent to kick at goal, the opposing team must stand still with their hands by their sides from the time the kicker starts to approach to kick until the ball is kicked
    There is an accompanying illustration.

    That same wording is now under Scoring 8.22 whereas the picture is still under 20 Penalty and Free Kick
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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