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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrainor View Post
    My favourite is head injury sir! I'm obliged to stop play but every time, off you go for HIA. But I'm ok. Sorry I can't take that risk
    There is NO HIA in the community game.

    "I've got a head injury, Sir"
    "OK, off you go. Captain/physio/coach - sorry he's had a head injury and he won't be taking any further part in the game. Thanks"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderhorse1986 View Post
    There is NO HIA in the community game.

    "I've got a head injury, Sir"
    "OK, off you go. Captain/physio/coach - sorry he's had a head injury and he won't be taking any further part in the game. Thanks"
    I agree with the NO HIA in our rugby, but that said, i'd also allow the medical cover make the call, with the proviso that i can still over rule if i don't believe they've made the right decision.
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    The OP asked what is what is the accepted norm for stopping play
    I think one problem is that different referee have different norms .. which does make it hard for the players.
    Of course they should play to the whistle , but that can be tricky

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    Our society norm is to play on unless the "medic" tells us we need to stop play or play moves into proximity with the injured player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    Our society norm is to play on unless the "medic" tells us we need to stop play or play moves into proximity with the injured player.
    I would add unless there is a natural break in play like a scrum, lineout, try or penalty where i would probably stop the game

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    Not a PK .. that's exactly the moment when players feign an injury in order to try and prevent a quick tap

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianh5979 View Post
    I would add unless there is a natural break in play like a scrum, lineout, try or penalty where i would probably stop the game
    Well I took it to be understood that if play was stopped then we had a natural stop anyway. With a try I would allow the Conversion attempt and then hold play while we check the injury.

    A PK is a little different if the team go quick I would use normal paramaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderhorse1986 View Post
    There is NO HIA in the community game.

    "I've got a head injury, Sir"
    "OK, off you go. Captain/physio/coach - sorry he's had a head injury and he won't be taking any further part in the game. Thanks"

    in irfu land .
    if any player leaves with concussion or suspected concussion .
    not only does player leave field .
    the referee has a concussion report to fill out .
    very basic , players name , irfu nr , match location etc.

    he / she name is then flagged if a club tries to list them in next match .
    and they can not play again untill they have completed their back to train / play protocol .

    which could mean they need to miss a few weeks .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christy View Post
    in irfu land .
    if any player leaves with concussion or suspected concussion .
    not only does player leave field .
    the referee has a concussion report to fill out .
    very basic , players name , irfu nr , match location etc.

    he / she name is then flagged if a club tries to list them in next match .
    and they can not play again untill they have completed their back to train / play protocol .

    which could mean they need to miss a few weeks .
    I'm fully aware of the very sad issue you've had in Ireland when it comes to concussion.

    I am fully in the whole recognise, remove, return, but in the safe occasion that a player is not concussed, but could have many other conditions is the whole "name the player" process going to potentially cause issues where players and god forbid coaches try to hide a minor knock knowing they'll then be side lined for "the big game" coming up?
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    In the case of that IRFU’s Ben Robinson concussion related death.
    ... Ben was checked for concussion three times during the match, and each time he was allowed to play on. There was a doctor at the match, the father of a Dalriada player who hurt his leg in one of the collisions with Ben. He missed the symptoms too.
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