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    Default Re: Uncontested. Man off law and updated logic tree

    In an RFU league 2 is correct
    In an international game it's 1
    In the Sussex Merit Tables last season was also 1 (special Sussex rule), but this season in some circumstances it's a choice between (2) and statinf at 15 and accepting a 14 point penalty

    In the Middlesex merit table Div 4 its neither .. you stay 15 v 15

    Ie .. no one can answer this question definitevly without knowing what competition you are reffing in

    But for RFU leagues it is (2)
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    Default Re: Uncontested. Man off law and updated logic tree

    Thanks crossref. This is for RFU leagues (level 9 and lower)
    There is confusion.
    I dont' blame coaches being a bit bemused by refs which seem to alter between the 2 camps on a weekly basis.

    Look at this link: (should be accessible to all )
    https://www.surreyrugby.co.uk/docume...s-2017-18.html

    It's guidance appears to be suggesting that the "one-man off" rule still applies this season.
    Fellow refs are divided about 50/50 on how they are enfircing this law at level 9 anyway

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    Default Re: Uncontested. Man off law and updated logic tree

    Sussex !

    Not Surrey which as you say is different again

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    Default Re: Uncontested. Man off law and updated logic tree

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Sussex !

    Not Surrey which as you say is different again
    Yeah. sorry. I was just finding an example. I have reffed in both counties this season :-)
    Just feels a bit like anarchy as to which game/level/region combination you are assigned to on the day.
    I'd forgive any ref for getting this wrong.

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    Default Re: Uncontested. Man off law and updated logic tree

    It also doesn't help that the regs are very hard to find.
    The most up to date regs I could find for Surrey around Christmas, were 2015/16

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    Default Re: Uncontested. Man off law and updated logic tree

    Quote Originally Posted by CrouchTPEngage View Post
    Thanks crossref. This is for RFU leagues (level 9 and lower)
    There is confusion.
    I dont' blame coaches being a bit bemused by refs which seem to alter between the 2 camps on a weekly basis.

    Look at this link: (should be accessible to all )
    https://www.surreyrugby.co.uk/docume...s-2017-18.html

    It's guidance appears to be suggesting that the "one-man off" rule still applies this season.
    Fellow refs are divided about 50/50 on how they are enfircing this law at level 9 anyway
    man off - at level 9?

    really?

    strewth...

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    Default Re: Uncontested. Man off law and updated logic tree

    didds in the merit tables man off has been getting slowly less popular.
    Four years ago the Middx MT had man off at every division, now it has it only for divs 1 to 3

    Sussex as above has relaxed

    Sanity prevailing

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    Default Re: Uncontested. Man off law and updated logic tree

    The Man Off Rule applies to local competitions in the RFU that use interchanges, this does not require the team that is carded to remove an extra player.

    23 man squad, not just Pro and International, follow the laws in 3.15,18 and 19 in conjunction with clarification 1 of 2018

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    Default Re: Uncontested. Man off law and updated logic tree

    Quote Originally Posted by thepercy View Post
    The Man Off Rule applies to local competitions in the RFU that use interchanges, this does not require the team that is carded to remove an extra player.
    That's not true , as per the examples given above

    In some competitions it applies, in others it doesn't , in some you get an option (lose a player or lose some points )

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