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    JP Doyle speaking a lot of French in this game !

    My French isn't good enough to tell how well he is doing .. Irlandais you must be watching, what do you think ?

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    Default Re: Racing v Munster

    Hi cross .
    Fair play to jp doyle for speaking to lads in french .
    If he would of spoken to munster in french , maybe it would of helped them .

    Well done racing 92 ,,,makes for a good final .
    The best 2 teams are in the final .

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    JP Doyle speaking a lot of French in this game !
    Was he giving instructions in French during play, or just responding to questions etc?
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
    The Referee by John Dryden

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    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    Was he giving instructions in French during play, or just responding to questions etc?
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    The commentators said he has been doing loads of work on his french . Got an A level last year

    Wayne Barnes also mentioned JP talking French in a recent podcast

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    Default Re: Racing v Munster

    JP speaking French - Is he joining the top 14 next season?
    One can but hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldman View Post
    JP speaking French - Is he joining the top 14 next season?
    One can but hope.
    He's not currently featured WR international panel , so it would make sense for him to prioritize European Championship. Top 14 games would do him no harm .. there are occasional premiership / top 14 exchanges aren't there

    I wonder who will get the final in Bilbao.. I think that is going to be a massive game

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
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    The commentators said he has been doing loads of work on his french . Got an A level last year

    Wayne Barnes also mentioned JP talking French in a recent podcast
    What a pity.

    International referees should all use English which is the de facto lingua franca. It is not possible to cover all languages/language pairings. It is much easier for players to recognise standard phrases than for referees to get them right and with a satisfactory accent. Moreover if French etc is used during play, both sides should understand, and I doubt if all the Munster team would understand French.

    Do we want international referees specialising in various languages and thus countries?

    If French, why not Italian? Spanish? Georgian? When Glenn Jackson refereed Georgia v Japan in Georgia, he used English and nobody complained.

    If the referee merely plans to referee in France, then he will need a fairly high level of fluency to be able to handle conversational French. More power to his elbow (or tongue?) if he does so. However I would not like to seem him using French in mixed language matches.
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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    Ob I tend to agree but I think that among the bien-pensant of World Rugby opinion is changing
    Autre temps autre moeres, comme il dit

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    Default Re: Racing v Munster

    I probably speak Dutch better than JP speaks French, I'm fluent and have lived here for 15 years, but I still referee in English.

    It's a huge distraction and extra mental effort to switch to a second language in a fast-paced game; I'm happy to chat and explain things in stoppages, and usually switch without realising it if someone addresses me in Dutch, but on-the-fly instructions are English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Ob I tend to agree but I think that among the bien-pensant of World Rugby opinion is changing
    Autre temps autre moeres, comme il dit
    It's a recipe for disaster. People think they are being kind but fail to realise the implications and complications. If they really try it, they'll soon find out. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
    The Referee by John Dryden

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