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    Default Re: Hands in the ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinky View Post
    Taff, a maul can become a ruck if the ball is on the floor as that ends the maul and if there are players closing round the ball on the floor that is a ruck. I don't think it can happen the other way as picking the ball up legally does not end the ruck, so it is still a ruck.
    Sorry Pinky, but I think a ruck can become a maul.

    If a jackler manages to lift the ball off the ground legally and all the other criteria for a maul are met (ball carrier on his feet and 2 opposing players bound on) surely it wouldn't make sense to treat it as a ruck when we are looking at a clear maul.

    I haven't got them to hand, but I'm pretty sure there has been a clarification on this.

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    Default Re: Hands in the ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    Sorry Pinky, but I think a ruck can become a maul.

    If a jackler manages to lift the ball off the ground legally and all the other criteria for a maul are met (ball carrier on his feet and 2 opposing players bound on) surely it wouldn't make sense to treat it as a ruck when we are looking at a clear maul.

    I haven't got them to hand, but I'm pretty sure there has been a clarification on this.
    Just for the record this doesn't constitute a maul.

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    Default Re: Hands in the ruck?

    Imo the 1st arriving player [after a completed tackle] has a decision to make.

    does he.....
    a] want to pick up the ball, & continue (open play with no new offside lines created] or
    b] does he want to park himself over the ball and create a 'mono ruck' & therefore establish new offside lines
    forming a ruck & then picking the ball up seems to be 'cake & eat it' to me

    unless the game wants to allow mono-rucker an the exception to normal 'handling' law? - in which case it needs to specify the same.

    If it does, then it would have to specify that doing so ends the mono-ruck, open play is now operational, & from that open play status a maul can now be formed.

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    Default Re: Hands in the ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisR View Post
    Just for the record this doesn't constitute a maul.
    Sorry, bad wording on my part.

    When I said "opposing player" I didn't mean 2 players from the opposing team - I meant 1 player from each team ie opposing each other.

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