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    Quote Originally Posted by Camquin View Post
    If you are in touch and play the ball, you have taken it into touch.
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    unfortunately - no, that's not the case

    18.2 The ball is not in touch or touch-in-goal if:
    a The ball reaches the plane of touch but is caught, knocked or kicked by a player who is in the playing area.
    b A player jumps, from within or outside the playing area, and catches the ball, and then lands in the playing area, regardless of whether the ball reached the plane of touch.
    c A player jumps from the playing area and knocks (or catches and releases) the ball back into the playing area, before landing in touch or touch-in-goal, regardless of whether the ball reached the plane of touch.
    d A player, who is in touch, kicks or knocks the ball, but does not hold it, provided it has not reached the plane of touch.


    So it wasn't touch, however it should have been a PK


    13.3 A player on the ground without the ball is out of the game and must:
    Allow opponents who are not on the ground to play or gain possession of the ball.
    Not play the ball.
    Not tackle or attempt to tackle an opponent.


    So a poor decision

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    The way that I saw it after review was that he went into touch. - Hand on touch line. At that stage he was still in contact with the ball, and the ball was off the ground as he had sort of released it and was perhaps trying to keep the ball in play. He was too late. It was this that the AR called. Therefore he was in touch BEFORE he tried to play the ball with his foot. That in turn meant that no penalty offence was possible.

    In his ‘sort of release’ he was trying to place the ball and was in the process of pushing the ball back. Therefore he was ‘holding’ the ball so 18.2d does not apply. This law applies to a loose ball.
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    That would explain it, and it's a more sympathetic call

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christy View Post
    53 mins into game .
    Wales are awarded a line out .
    I watched hi lights only , & cant rewind & re watch .

    Blue have ball , run down side line .
    And blue ends up on floor , via tackle .
    Places ball back on floor , & then it looks like his arm or leg goes over touch line .
    He is touching ball the same time ,,but to me looks like thats all

    Lines man puts up his flag & red awarded line out ..

    Any thoughts ,,or can some one put up clip.
    To me if my account is correct ,,for me it should of been play on
    I've just got hold of a copy. Do you mean 46 mins into the game? (there's nothing at 53 as you describe.) In the incident I'm watching the tackle by Wales 9 on Arg 14 . The player has released the ball before going into touch BUT he remains in contact with it untill in touch. I'd have to say the call is, for me, correct.

    I therefore think your account to be in error and therefore it should have been a line out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    I've just got hold of a copy. Do you mean 46 mins into the game? (there's nothing at 53 as you describe.) In the incident I'm watching the tackle by Wales 9 on Arg 14 . The player has released the ball before going into touch BUT he remains in contact with it untill in touch. I'd have to say the call is, for me, correct.

    I therefore think your account to be in error and therefore it should have been a line out.
    Be careful Marc, they’ll be accusing us of Welsh bias and making whispers about the Welsh Mafia on this forum!��

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    Odd that I'm accused of the reverse in Wales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balones View Post
    Be careful Marc, they’ll be accusing us of Welsh bias and making whispers about the Welsh Mafia on this forum!��
    I think you'll find that the right word is 'Taffia'
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