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    For me a late charge on the kicker has to be quite soon after he kicks it.

    But obstructing the kicker can be any time between when he kicks it and when he arrives at the landing place of the ball (assuming he chases after it).

    The intention of the law is to prevent opponents from stepping in the kickers way as he chases down his own kick to prevent him from getting under it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_NL View Post
    The law doesn't differentiate between charging or obstructing a player who's just kicked the ball. I would have no problem giving the penalty if it happens 10m after the kick, I don't think 'just' means a couple of seconds.
    But at what point does a "kicker" just become another player running after the ball?

    The term "just" surely implies that the obstruction / charging needs to be pretty quick - otherwise why say "just" at all? And the kicker is protected under the "Dangerous Play" section, not just the "Obstruction" section which protects everybody.

    To me once the kicker has run 10m downfield, he is just another player and covered by the general "Obstruction" law which doesn't give a PK / PK option.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    ... The intention of the law is to prevent opponents from stepping in the kickers way as he chases down his own kick to prevent him from getting under it.
    I always assumed the intention was to stop an opponent taking a cheap shot and charging into a vulnerable kicker who may only have one foot on the ground, and almost certainly watching the ball and not some sneaky opponent.

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    What taff said. Yes I agree.

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    Does the protection for the kicker extend to kick chasers who pass the kicker and takes on the kickers offside negating properties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepercy View Post
    Does the protection for the kicker extend to kick chasers who pass the kicker and takes on the kickers offside negating properties?
    No ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_NL View Post
    But it doesn't matter, because I don't think 'just' is a couple of seconds. As long as the ball is in flight and the kicker is chasing it, any obstruction is obstructing a kicker who's just played the ball.
    I agree with this. If ball is in flight, then it will be a downtown option.
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    This is a very interesting thread .
    There are two completely different lines of thought , one saying that the downtown Law applies just for a short time, just after the kick is made, and another school of thought that it lasts all the time the ball is in flight

    I wonder which is 'right' This might be worth a clarification request

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    At the level most of us ref, the ball is only ever in flight a short time. :-)

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    Very true

    I suppose there are three possible cut off points
    The downtown option could apply
    .. only for just a little moment or two after the kick
    .. until the ball lands
    .. right until the kicker catches up with the ball

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    Props can kick too... that could be several phases later.

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